Will A1 overtake F1? - Page 2

cptkablamo · 13 Oct 2007, 06:45 (Ref:2039028)

A1 may win out if the manufacturers pull out of F1...Could F1 survive if 3 manufacturers pulled out at once...it happened in the WRC, so given the right set of circumstances, it could in F1...

...that is the only way it could happen

Super Hans · 13 Oct 2007, 09:14 (Ref:2039077)

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Originally Posted by NAC

Those bloody Australians again, there always steeling our stuff. Dixon is a Kiwi - in case you don't know what a Kiwi is, they are from New Zealand

My apologies!

Yannick · 13 Oct 2007, 09:48 (Ref:2039094)

A1GP so far has been a junior series, like a GP2 for the winter months. That timeframe already rules out such competition..
Then can A1GP be viewed on Free TV in Europe?

safc_fan89 · 13 Oct 2007, 09:52 (Ref:2039097)

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Originally Posted by Greenback

Now that Ferrari has agreed to supply engines and provide consultion on the design and manufacture of the series’ standard chassis.

My question is, if the future A1 cars were to become more powerful and faster than F1 cars due to further FIA restriction on F1 engine and aero development, will A1 cause damage to the popularity of F1 as the pinnacle of motor sports?

No, that won't happen, and no it won't. Until the drivers taking part are actually decent, then it will be nothing more than an unofficial feeder series to F1.

Gt_R · 13 Oct 2007, 11:09 (Ref:2039138)

The problem is with drivers and the country representatives. Teams are required to find funding, and that is only possible if the government supports, or if local companies pip in the cash

Drivers wise, while teams like Brazil, or UK, or other european based teams can easily have a queue of good quality drivers, teams like Malaysia and China with lesser motorsports culture, will only have limited choices and poorer quality drivers.

However, for A1GP to really take off, it needs a few more years, when the developing countries start to develop their own motorsports culture, things will start to get tighter.

JeremySmith · 13 Oct 2007, 17:09 (Ref:2039321)

A1GP will never take over, or overtake F1...

Olive · 13 Oct 2007, 17:13 (Ref:2039324)

Why does one have to overtake the other?

F1 is great, but A1 provides us racing through the winter.

I watch and enjoy both.

JeremySmith · 13 Oct 2007, 17:15 (Ref:2039326)

Simply this is the question being asked. "Welcome" to Ten-Tenths Olive!

NAC · 13 Oct 2007, 21:54 (Ref:2039472)

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Originally Posted by Super Hans

My apologies!

No problems Super Hans, he was actually born in Aussie but is a full blooded Kiwi.

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re GTR's comment on teams finding funding this can be a huge factor for the smaller countries. Team NZ is funded by Colin Giltrap not the NZ Government, I think from memory the government threw in a little to help host the Taupo round and not towards funding the cost doing the full season. For a small country like NZ (population 4 mill) unless we have the likes of the Colin Giltraps of the world helping countries like NZ wouldn't be on the grid.

No problem with motorsport culture in NZ though, have a huge pool of talent for such a small country.

Mr V · 14 Oct 2007, 00:11 (Ref:2039550)

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Originally Posted by Greenback

Now that Ferrari has agreed to supply engines and provide consultion on the design and manufacture of the series’ standard chassis.

Forgive me, your thread is the first i've seen of this, but surely, as A1 is a series that uses the same chassis and engine, Ferrari have no input in this, engine or otherwise?

Nicholosophy · 14 Oct 2007, 03:28 (Ref:2039604)

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Originally Posted by Mr V

Forgive me, your thread is the first i've seen of this, but surely, as A1 is a series that uses the same chassis and engine, Ferrari have no input in this, engine or otherwise?

Ferarri are now the supplier of engines and chassis for A1GP. Info here

Gt_R · 14 Oct 2007, 06:21 (Ref:2039626)

Yupps, they're official supplier of engines for the whole A1GP, and provide design and consultancy for the series with regards to chassis.

Ah.. Ferrari on slicks again. The deal also extends to merchandizing. In return, it is speculated that A1GP boss will buy out a smaller team (ie Torro Rosso) if "team Bs" such as Prodrive/Super Aguri are allowed

Armco Bender · 14 Oct 2007, 07:55 (Ref:2039652)

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Ferarri are now the supplier of engines and chassis for A1GP

So next years A1 cars will be this years McLarens?............

NAC · 14 Oct 2007, 08:39 (Ref:2039664)

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Originally Posted by Armco Bender

So next years A1 cars will be this years McLarens?............

One thing that you can guarantee is that Ferrari will win one constructors championship next year

Greenback · 16 Oct 2007, 08:24 (Ref:2041379)

There are now reports saying that next year's A1GP cars will be based on
Ferrari F2007.

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlin...16093918.shtml

NAC · 16 Oct 2007, 10:06 (Ref:2041508)

It is also rumored that Dallara will be the chassis builder. I guess we will all just have to wait and see what is officially released

JamesH · 17 Oct 2007, 13:09 (Ref:2042655)

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Originally Posted by courageous

Final (sad) point: the minute A1 (or anyone else) gets close to F1, Bernie & Max will crush them.

A couple of poster said this, but just out of interest, how would they Crush them?

James

**Bononi** · 17 Oct 2007, 13:42 (Ref:2042689)

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Originally Posted by JamesH

A couple of poster said this, but just out of interest, how would they Crush them?

James

With a hammer ?

climb · 17 Oct 2007, 14:57 (Ref:2042732)

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Originally Posted by NAC

It is also rumored that Dallara will be the chassis builder. I guess we will all just have to wait and see what is officially released

That's quite interesting NAC, any sources?

jab · 17 Oct 2007, 19:26 (Ref:2042980)

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Originally Posted by JamesH

A couple of poster said this, but just out of interest, how would they Crush them?

James

See Group C sportscars and the International Touring Car Championship

Mulsanne Bleu · 17 Oct 2007, 19:51 (Ref:2043003)

Although I don't get to follow A1 for that I don't have Skysports and would rather use F1 as a soundtrack to washing the dishes and cleaning the house other than to just watch Lewis

I would say very unlikely as for the big reason, the general public (read passing non-Autosport reading public) are suckered to believe that F1 is the best form of motorsport to be interested in

Generally a bit like Radio 1 suckering all their listeners to believe that Arctic Monkeys are the greatest thing since The Beatles and only that few to think sod that and tell them all to shove their CDs up the a

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Mulsanne Bleu · 17 Oct 2007, 19:55 (Ref:2043008)

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Originally Posted by courageous

Just playing devil's advocate - you don't know they are the best drivers until you put them in equal machines (look at all the top draw Indy/Champ car drivers who have run in A1 and been made to look average by a bunch of F3 drivers).

A1 has more overtaking than any other non-oval single seaters, but overtaking alone does not make the best series.

With restricted F1 cars, A1 should be aiming to be an equal (but with the winter season, not a competitor) to US open wheel racing by the end of the decade.

Final (sad) point: the minute A1 (or anyone else) gets close to F1, Bernie & Max will crush them.

They surely did that to Group C

Greenback · 18 Oct 2007, 03:24 (Ref:2043271)

Which car do you think will be quicker over the same track suppose if

Engine :
A1 - 3.4L V8 (650-700bhp)
F1 - 2.4L V8 (750bhp)

Tyres :
A1 - Slick
F1 - Grooved

fieldodreams79 · 18 Oct 2007, 03:32 (Ref:2043272)

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Originally Posted by Greenback

Which car do you think will be quicker over the same track suppose if

F1. no question.

and i don't think the A1 will ever over take, but it is a great looking series racing at some cool tracks. Saw Zandvoort the other day on SPEED

; first race i've had the pleasure of watching there.

i really like the A1 GP. country vs country. it's great!

NAC · 18 Oct 2007, 03:56 (Ref:2043278)

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Originally Posted by climb

That's quite interesting NAC, any sources?

Motorsport enews, page 10
http://enews.mnews.com.au/

As mentioned it is rumor and possibly should be taken with a pinch of salt, they have been known to be wrong sometimes

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