TC2000: 2009 Season Topic - Page 2

Jacob Black · 5 Jan 2009, 23:26 (Ref:2365966)

TC cars are ugly as sin, slow and old, but entertaining. Every circuit in Argentina is fantastic, my favourite is the circuit in San Juan (in my heart I'm San Juanino even though I'm Australian).

It is a tragedy that TC2000 is changing its format, this series was ranked the fourth best category in the world by the FIA just a couple of years ago.

Stay tuned for a possible article in Auto Action (here in Australia) on the two major series in Argentina.

Matt · 6 Jan 2009, 00:34 (Ref:2365998)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacob Black

TC cars are ugly as sin, slow and old, but entertaining. Every circuit in Argentina is fantastic, my favourite is the circuit in San Juan (in my heart I'm San Juanino even though I'm Australian).

It is a tragedy that TC2000 is changing its format, this series was ranked the fourth best category in the world by the FIA just a couple of years ago.

Stay tuned for a possible article in Auto Action (here in Australia) on the two major series in Argentina.

Since when is 300km/h slow?

Matt · 6 Jan 2009, 00:35 (Ref:2365999)

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Originally Posted by Fernando_S

Maybe, but from a technical point of view, TC is horrible, and I must say that the rules are bent sometimes (at least one can be suspicious quite often), which doesn't happen in TC2000. The TC cars are simply awful.

The Santa Fe road course is too narrow, is almost imposible to overtake, but it has been a total success respect to the people attendance.

I don't really care about technology, I just like to see good racing.

Jacob Black · 6 Jan 2009, 00:46 (Ref:2366004)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt

Since when is 300km/h slow?

actually, you've got me there, in terms of raw power they are faster, and they dont handle too badly either, but I much prefer the TC2000. I've been to races of both categories, one is very American (as in yank) and the other very European. TC2000 is the champagne category, whereas TC is the NASCAR category. (to make a loose analogy)

having said that, Argentines race hard and close, every category in Arg is raced brilliantly and worth following.

Fernando_S · 24 Jan 2009, 21:31 (Ref:2378412)

A brief news update: Fiat is returning to the series as works team with Pro Racing, with two to four Fiat Linea.

It seems also that the Honda works team remains in the series with three Honda New Civic for Jose Maria Lopez, Juan Manuel Silva y Leonel Pernia.

**FIRE** · 24 Jan 2009, 21:38 (Ref:2378417)

So Chevrolet, Ford, Renault, Toyota, Honda, Peugeot and FIAT will be officially involved?

kmchow · 25 Jan 2009, 07:09 (Ref:2378563)

If theres's still so much manufacturer involvement these past few years, the manufacturers don't seem to mind the costs if they're still racing. Isn't there any other ways they could reduce engine costs? Switching to a one make series should really be a last resort?

Fernando_S · 27 Jan 2009, 02:39 (Ref:2380142)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

So Chevrolet, Ford, Renault, Toyota, Honda, Peugeot and FIAT will be officially involved?

Actually, Peugeot is a private effort at least until now. Victor Rosso's team remains with Honda.

Fernando_S · 27 Jan 2009, 02:41 (Ref:2380145)

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Originally Posted by kmchow

If theres's still so much manufacturer involvement these past few years, the manufacturers don't seem to mind the costs if they're still racing. Isn't there any other ways they could reduce engine costs? Switching to a one make series should really be a last resort?

Money, the cost is lower, and there's other ways, but sadly the series decided going with this one.

**FIRE** · 3 Feb 2009, 17:29 (Ref:2387585)

Chevrolet switching to the bigger Vectra?

Fernando_S · 5 Feb 2009, 22:48 (Ref:2389423)

That's right. The Chevrolet works team, JP Racing will enter two Chevrolet Vectra (the european Astra saloon).

10tacle · 8 Feb 2009, 00:53 (Ref:2390687)

You mean this one?

ARG Chevrolet Astra = Opel Astra G
ARG Chevrolet Vectra = Opel Atra H

is this correct?

Fernando_S · 9 Feb 2009, 00:18 (Ref:2391383)

Yes, that's correct. Nice looking car, by the way.

andy_b · 7 Mar 2009, 11:13 (Ref:2410914)

Eight makes now as a VW Bora/Jetta is taking part.

1st race this weekend I believe. Does anyone know of any websites with bigger pictures than the official site? I want to feature it on Speedhunters (We did this in 08) but need pics at least 600 pixels wide.

Always loved the look of these

**FIRE** · 7 Mar 2009, 13:11 (Ref:2410988)

Contact TC2000 organization?

**FIRE** · 16 Mar 2009, 20:24 (Ref:2416938)

NUMERACIÓN 2009 DE TC2000

1.LOPEZ, JOSÉ MARIA. HONDA RACING. HONDA NEW CIVIC
2.SILVA, JUAN MANUEL. HONDA RACING. HONDA NEW CIVIC

3.ORTELLI, GUILLERMO. CHEVROLET ELAION. CHEVROLET VECTRA
4.LEDESMA, CHRISTIAN. CHEVROLET ELAION. CHEVROLET VECTRA

5.ROSSI, MATIAS.RENAULT LO JACK TEAM. RENAULT MEGANE II
6.GIROLAMI, NESTOR.RENAULT LO JACK TEAM. RENAULT MEGANE II

7.BASSO, MARTIN.FORD YPF. FORD FOCUS
8.PONCE DE LEON, GABRIEL.FORD YPF. FORD FOCUS

9.FONTANA, NORBERTO. TOYOTA TEAM ARGENTINA. TOYOTA COROLLA
10.WERNER, MARIANO. TOYOTA TEAM ARGENTINA. TOYOTA COROLLA

11.DI PALMA, LUIS JOSE. DP1 TEAM. FORD FOCUS
12.CARDUCCI, LEANDRO.DP1 TEAM. FORD FOCUS

16.YANNANTUONI, FABIAN. DTA. CHEVROLET ASTRA
17.VENTANA, SANTIAGO. DTA. CHEVROLET ASTRA

18.LLAVER, BERNARDO. ESCUDERIA RIO DE LA PLATA. HONDA NEW CIVIC
19.PEZZINI, FABRICIO. ESCUDERIA RIO DE LA PLATA. HONDA NEW CIVIC

22.BELLI, DANIEL.LANUS MOTORSPORT. HONDA CIVIC

24.FINESCHI, DAMIAN.FINESCHI RACING. HONDA NEW CIVIC

26.SALERNO, RUBEN.JM MOTORSPORT. VW BORA
27.DER OHANESSIAN, GUSTAVO.JM MOTORSPORT. VW BORA

28.MARTIN, GERARDO. MENDOZA MOTORSPORT. VW BORA

30.RAPONI, JOSE LUIS. BAR COMPETICION. HONDA CIVIC

34.BOSIO, EZEQUIEL.BAINOTTI RACING. HONDA NEW CIVIC

36.PERNIA, LEONEL.HONDA RACING. HONDA NEW CIVIC

38.MUÑOZ MARCHESI, MATIAS.DTA. CHEVROLET ASTRA

40.BEITIA, CRISPIN.DP1 TEAM. FORD FOCUS

46.SPATARO, EMILIANO.FIAT PRO RACING TEAM. FIAT LINEA
47.VIEL BUGLIOTTI, FRANCISCO.FIAT PRO RACING TEAM. FIAT LINEA

48.TUERO, ESTEBAN. FP RACING. PEUGEOT 307

Fernando_S · 2 Apr 2009, 15:36 (Ref:2431533)

The New Toyota Corolla:

**FIRE** · 3 Apr 2009, 09:42 (Ref:2432160)

Nice looking car

**FIRE** · 27 Jul 2009, 19:47 (Ref:2509433)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fernando_S

There are rumors about the series adopting a single engine (Mazda, tuned by Oreste Berta) in order to cut costs. In the other hand, Esteban Tuero's comeback to the series is going to be with a Peugeot 307 saloon.

Currently I am watching the endurance race of the series (round 5). From Alain Menu I understand there will be a single make spec engine next season.

Will it be the Berta tuned Mazda engine?

Would it not be a good idea TC2000 and the Next Generation Touring Car (BTCC) use the same engine rules? Or maybe TC2000 could use the NGTC spec engine.

Talking about NGTC. NGTC will have a standard front and rear sub frame. Isn't this mandatory for TC2000 cars too? Did Alain Gow and his people get some ideas from Argentina?

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