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No- The Brumos Porsche is carryover from last year and is subjected to the same regulations.
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Nope. From the GA-website:
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22 Jan 2009, 07:17 (Ref:2376595) | #31 | ||
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I meant that Brumos is not a "semi-factory" team and they have to abide by the same regulations.
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Yeah, but that's not the point I was making. The penalty isn't for Penske being a semi-factory-team, but for Porsche bringing in a new engine, which is probably more powerful than the old one.
Porsche could have stayed with the old engine and be done with that, but they choose to bring the new one despite the weight penalty. |
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22 Jan 2009, 10:31 (Ref:2376689) | #33 | ||
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Eurosport 2 will cover the start at 20.30 GMT and regular visits I believe
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From the rules: SECTION 3 - WEIGHT 3-1 Minimum Weight - Minimum car weight, per engine displacement, less fuel and driver race ready. Minimum weight for cars 4.0 liters or more, 2275 lbs Minimum weight for cars under 4.0 liters, 2225 lbs 3-1.1 Grand-Am reserves the right to adjust the weight of any car. 3-1.2 The use of titanium is prohibited except for engine valves and valve spring retainers. 3-1.3 The use of magnesium is prohibited. |
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22 Jan 2009, 14:37 (Ref:2376851) | #35 | |
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you see spyderman.if you a 3.8L engine your car weights 2225llbs and with a 4.0L engine you car weights 2275lbs unless Grand am changes it's mind.my main point is that grand am has it's rules,but also wants close competion,so it will change them if necessary.the cayenne V8 is now allowed to run more rpm(it has increased from 7000 to 7300rpm).and spyderman I'm not like your brielga and arakis,i have nothing against porsche.i'm also very interested in the porsche GT3 vs mazda RX8 battle.porsche has worked on the car it's suspension,weight balance and it's has more horsepower.it should be much more tire friendly,more stable on hard braking.saturday will see if those improvements work.
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It’s good to see that you’re not one of those rabid Porsche haters.
Just trying to get to the real reasons and facts behind the story. As for the GT battle: Very interesting indeed, but still as you know, the Mazda’s are stage 2 cars and the Porsche’s are not. |
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Brumos with the cheater Porsche engine currently in P1 with a 1:41.1 with 20min left in the first session.
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22 Jan 2009, 16:29 (Ref:2376935) | #38 | |
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he danske,come on.all DP engines are grand am aproved.be fair.
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22 Jan 2009, 16:31 (Ref:2376937) | #39 | |
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Hey, anyone else notice that the Gainsco car has actual headlights and not just a sticker with a hole in it and 1 light sticking out of the whole?? It makes the car look like 10x better.
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22 Jan 2009, 16:37 (Ref:2376945) | #40 | |
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Running joke. Whoever is quickest I call a cheater. Seems fair to me.
First session over. MSR and Penske in P2 and P3 both managed 1:41.2s. T&S was acting a little funny with driver ID, but I believe that was Valiante and Briscoe respectively. |
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You right on the issue of rx8 being stage 2.altough they are disappointed that can not use the new front dive planes,porsche feels very strongly that they can be comptitive against the rx8.but i think that it will be difficult for them.
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22 Jan 2009, 16:42 (Ref:2376950) | #42 | |
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this edition is going to be one hell of a race.
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22 Jan 2009, 19:28 (Ref:2377036) | #43 | |
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Barbosa just took the Brumos 59 into the 1:40s.
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The Lexus motor does not look like the ticket on outright pace this year. Bottom of the top 10, with the Porsche and Ford motors looking right on the money. No surprise there, really!
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22 Jan 2009, 20:34 (Ref:2377069) | #46 | ||
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Pontiacs are dragging in both DP and GT. Nice lap for the Ferrari in GT!
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22 Jan 2009, 21:07 (Ref:2377090) | #47 | ||
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Donohue (Brumos) on pole in front of Bernhard (Penske), Valiante (Shank/Ford), and Zonta (Krohn) in the best non-Riley.
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Looks like David Donahue (Porsche): first, Timo Bernhard (Porsche): 2nd and Michael Valiante (Ford): Third. No Pontiac until 11th, slowest of the engine choices.
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22 Jan 2009, 21:10 (Ref:2377093) | #49 | |
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I may have to retract my smilie.
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LET'S GO BARBOSA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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