The gold coast event - Page 2

Crash Test · 23 Oct 2009, 07:24 (Ref:2567684)

I tell you what, it seemed like a pretty good crowd today...

Gaz170 · 24 Oct 2009, 08:57 (Ref:2568515)

I heard that there is serious talk of getting the Indycars back next year, with some time in August being the new date for the event. Looking at the Indycar schedule, some time around the Japanese race in September would probably be more sensible.

Any time would be ok, as long as it didn't conflict with school holidays (when all the accommodation is fully booked anyway).

**GTRMagic** · 24 Oct 2009, 09:09 (Ref:2568519)

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Originally Posted by Gaz170

I heard that there is serious talk of getting the Indycars back next year, with some time in August being the new date for the event. Looking at the Indycar schedule, some time around the Japanese race in September would probably be more sensible.

Any time would be ok, as long as it didn't conflict with school holidays (when all the accommodation is fully booked anyway).

Is it hot enough in August for the sideshow?

Crash Test · 24 Oct 2009, 09:31 (Ref:2568534)

The thing is- October is prime weather wise, and fills a non-holiday period local operators.

Gaz170 · 24 Oct 2009, 14:21 (Ref:2568698)

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Originally Posted by Crash Test

The thing is- October is prime weather wise, and fills a non-holiday period local operators.

Which is the whole reason they weren't willing to change dates last year, however, after the A1 debacle the organisers in a mood to negotiate now.

cavvy · 24 Oct 2009, 21:57 (Ref:2568914)

My understanding is the Queensland Government want an international audience for this event & I agree with the suggestion of an alliance with Macau specifically the F3, international F3. With Daniel Ricciardo & Brendon Hartley representing local interest, it is opportune.

Right time of year, 56th year at Macau, opportunity for Queensland to get a date on the international motorsport calendar.
http://www.macau.grandprix.gov.mo/app/home/gp56/en

Even possible sponsor in James Packer with his casino interests in Macau.

retro · 24 Oct 2009, 22:12 (Ref:2568927)

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Originally Posted by Gaz170

Which is the whole reason they weren't willing to change dates last year, however, after the A1 debacle the organisers in a mood to negotiate now.

I think the alternative date last year was one of the GF's [AFL] so it wasn't a realistic option.

It was in the local papers that they are going back to see if they can get another date.

D.R.T. · 24 Oct 2009, 22:46 (Ref:2568944)

Some stories coming out of the Gold Coast
Retailers seek SuperGP compo
http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/...oast-news.html

SuperGP crowds continue to slide
http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/...t-supergp.html

Rick · 24 Oct 2009, 22:55 (Ref:2568949)

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Originally Posted by cavvy

My understanding is the Queensland Government want an international audience for this event

I think a back flip of Beattie-esque proportions is coming.

To save face over the A1 debacle, already they are talking up the event as it is - the idiot sport Minister is quoted as saying A1 did everyone a favour by not turning up!

To let the whole event fold now will just reinforce what a massive c0ck-up it has been by the government right from the time Spence was sprouting she had signed up Indycars again during her junket to the Indy 500.

The way out for the government is to turn it into, as the papers today are calling it, part of the "Grand Slam" of V8s.

Cocho must be loving this!

retro · 24 Oct 2009, 23:21 (Ref:2568965)

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Originally Posted by Rick

I think a back flip of Beattie-esque proportions is coming.

To save face over the A1 debacle, already they are talking up the event as it is - the idiot sport Minister is quoted as saying A1 did everyone a favour by not turning up!

To let the whole event fold now will just reinforce what a massive c0ck-up it has been by the government right from the time Spence was sprouting she had signed up Indycars again during her junket to the Indy 500.

The way out for the government is to turn it into, as the papers today are calling it, part of the "Grand Slam" of V8s.

Cocho must be loving this!

This is what is called Queensland Government spin.

Like it or not if this is talked up enough in the press and Premier Bligh gets the brownie points then this event will continue. If she fails then next year we might all be watching a marbles championship on ESPN.

Notice that the Opposition Leader has gone completely to ground on the issue as it's his party that supports the business sector [read tourism] and his seat is in this area so there is nothing for him to gain in dragging this event down except the loss of votes.[btw he is noted for being accident prone]

As for Tony Cochrane's influence on this subject I hope he can pull this off as I have been to this event many times and it's a great experience. The racing is great, the Gold Coast is a fantastic area [mostly] and the girls are woo hoo.

D.R.T. · 25 Oct 2009, 05:19 (Ref:2569094)

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As for Tony Cochrane's influence on this subject I hope he can pull this off.

Lets hope TC doesn't pull anything off. Bring the international component back as the headliner, V8's as support, leave it with IMG and we can get back to good old days of the event.

There is no need for V8 Events to run surfers.

retro · 25 Oct 2009, 05:30 (Ref:2569098)

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Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Lets hope TC doesn't pull anything off. Bring the international component back as the headliner, V8's as support, leave it with IMG and we can get back to good old days of the event.

There is no need for V8 Events to run surfers.

Like I said if the Queensland Events can't get an overseas category then Plan B is the V8's...

Plan C is watching the Marbles Championships on ESPN...I know exactly what I want to be watching and I couldn't care less who is the figure head is.

Tourer · 25 Oct 2009, 05:43 (Ref:2569104)

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Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Lets hope TC doesn't pull anything off. Bring the international component back as the headliner, V8's as support, leave it with IMG and we can get back to good old days of the event.

There is no need for V8 Events to run surfers.

DRT, we all know that you don't like either TC or his series but the V8s have not been a support at this event since 2001.

TSR · 25 Oct 2009, 05:57 (Ref:2569107)

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Originally Posted by Tourer

DRT, we all know that you don't like either TC or his series but the V8s have not been a support at this event since 2001.

YES THEY HAVE.

D.R.T. · 25 Oct 2009, 06:23 (Ref:2569113)

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Originally Posted by Tourer

DRT, we all know that you don't like either TC or his series but the V8s have not been a support at this event since 2001.

Obviously the local press disagrees

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A1GP race to be held as the centrepiece of the event was cancelled when A1GP's parent company went into liquidation.

http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/...oast-news.html

A heavily reduced crowd probably inidicates this aswell. I am not suggesting that the v8's aren't popular at the event however it is the international acts that make Indy, 'Indy' which is what is lacking this year

TSR · 25 Oct 2009, 06:26 (Ref:2569114)

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Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Obviously the local press disagrees

http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/...oast-news.html

A heavily reduced crowd probably inidicates this aswell. I am not suggesting that the v8's aren't popular at the event however it is the international acts that make Indy, 'Indy' which is what is lacking this year

Agree 100% with u DRT

Robert Ryan · 25 Oct 2009, 06:52 (Ref:2569126)

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As for Tony Cochrane's influence on this subject I hope he can pull this off as I have been to this event many times and it's a great experience. The racing is great, the Gold Coast is a fantastic area [mostly] and the girls are woo hoo.

I think the problem now for V8Supercars is how to distinguish this event from the Townsville and the up and coming Sydney 500. Part of the Gold Coasts appeal was Sun Surf, Girls and a "International Open Wheel " component. Seeing that the overseas Open wheel component is dead(The IRL is in its death throws as I type), there needs to be more support acts that can distinguish Surfers from the other V8Supercar street events.

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DRT, we all know that you don't like either TC or his series but the V8s have not been a support at this event since 2001.

Everyone knows that on these boards except for the Trolls.

Tourer · 25 Oct 2009, 07:02 (Ref:2569129)

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Originally Posted by TSR

YES THEY HAVE.

Of course they haven't been TSR - the event has been a double header for quite a long time now with equal billing.

billybanana · 25 Oct 2009, 07:22 (Ref:2569144)

From what I've seen this weekend they should just close the streets and have a major **** up for 4 days......no one seems to take much notice of the cars racing around anyway.

TSR · 25 Oct 2009, 08:30 (Ref:2569179)

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Originally Posted by Tourer

Of course they haven't been TSR - the event has been a double header for quite a long time now with equal billing.

Yes but they have always being second to Indy, so never being the main act till this year, no matter what the Black Wiggle has said.
Look at the crowd numbers this year.

Falcadore · 25 Oct 2009, 08:34 (Ref:2569182)

Crowd numbers reported down by 20%.

That should ring a few alarm bells.

HSVDT · 25 Oct 2009, 09:03 (Ref:2569198)

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Originally Posted by Falcadore

Crowd numbers reported down by 20%.

That should ring a few alarm bells.

Obviously crowd numbers are going to be down, but VESA had SFA time to try play up the Legends race let alone anything else, no thanks to the no show of the A1GP.

STEALTHY · 25 Oct 2009, 09:04 (Ref:2569200)

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Originally Posted by HSVDT

Obviously crowd numbers are going to be down, but VESA had SFA time to try play up the Legends race let alone anything else, no thanks to the no show of the A1GP.

When was the legends race on?

All i saw was the legends parade laps.

Falcadore · 25 Oct 2009, 09:10 (Ref:2569203)

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Originally Posted by HSVDT

Obviously crowd numbers are going to be down, but VESA had SFA time to try play up the Legends race let alone anything else, no thanks to the no show of the A1GP.

Yes the crowd was always going to be down, GFC, A1 etc.

But the crowd was nonetheless down by 92,000 people. That is not either a blip, or explainable by any one factor.

And it does suggest that V8 Supercars claim of carrying the event by themselves would be under the caveat of this reduced crowd figure.

I don't want to lose the event because V8 Supercar can't draw enough crowd by themselves.

Why can't we have an international open wheel series? Why is it so bad to have big horsepower proper racing cars? More races over the weekend, how is that a bad thing?

Robert Ryan · 25 Oct 2009, 09:45 (Ref:2569211)

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Why can't we have an international open wheel series? Why is it so bad to have big horsepower proper racing cars? More races over the weekend, how is that a bad thing?

Because there is no series, willing or able to do so. The crowd numbers are what is to be expected considering the GFC and the A1GP debacle(which drew tiny numbers in Sydney by the way)

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But the crowd was nonetheless down by 92,000 people. That is not either a blip, or explainable by any one factor.

Exactly a combination of the above had its effect.

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