Driver Who has the best team-mate combo? - Page 2

Kirk · 19 Apr 2010, 16:21 (Ref:2675945)

Until MS comes to grips with his car, I'd have to question he and Nico as being the best combo at this point. I think right now Lewis and Button have the edge but I don't expect it to last the season.

fourWheelDrift · 19 Apr 2010, 17:38 (Ref:2676001)

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Originally Posted by Mr V

Is it just me, or is this a contradictory statement?

I don't think so as I remember it Senna was not exactly gracious about giving Berger the win and didn't want anyone to think he had been beaten. Instead of letting Berger catch and pass him in a plausible way he simply pulled out a massive lead and then slowed to a crawl right at the very end of the last lap.

phoenix · 19 Apr 2010, 17:54 (Ref:2676007)

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Originally Posted by herowassenna

I hated the decisions Ferrari made with Barrichello during his time at the team. I hated Schumacher giving him race wins.

I hated it when Barrichello was forced by the team management to concede his win in the 2002 Austrian Grand Prix to MS. I am pleased that he did it on the finish straight in front of the full grandstands to prove the point that this was HIS victory.

After that Grand Prix, Barrichello 'lost' to Michael in more subtle ways, because F1 does not allow teams to choose which of their drivers via 'team orders' win in such circumstances ........ but it still went on and goes on to this day!

Mr V · 19 Apr 2010, 19:36 (Ref:2676080)

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Originally Posted by Bononi

That only proves that the problem was on the other side, the spaniard side... Teflonso.

Or maybe, Lewis has learnt from the debacle too?

medler · 19 Apr 2010, 19:37 (Ref:2676082)

Well if they are getting on as well as they did in GP2 I'd put my money on Senna and Chandhok.

herowassenna · 19 Apr 2010, 20:14 (Ref:2676113)

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Originally Posted by fourWheelDrift

I don't think so as I remember it Senna was not exactly gracious about giving Berger the win and didn't want anyone to think he had been beaten. Instead of letting Berger catch and pass him in a plausible way he simply pulled out a massive lead and then slowed to a crawl right at the very end of the last lap.

My fault how I communicated my thoughts, but exactly right, Senna was very ungracious, and Berger himself hated being gifted the win.
Schumi gifted a few wins to Barrichello, and showed no negative emotion, but I well remember at the Hungaroring, in 2002, when he was second behind Rubens, slowed to find some space and blitzed the lap record on his penultimate lap. So as to say, this is a gift.

I didn't like the way Coulthard had to give up two wins to Hakkinen either. Jerez 1997 was out of order, Dc had won in Australia and Monza through his own ability. Giving up Jerez was scandalous, then Australia 98 with a car that was so dominant was a complete disgrace, whether the fault lay with the team or Hakkinen, it wasn't DC's problem.

strider · 19 Apr 2010, 20:45 (Ref:2676142)

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Originally Posted by medler

Well if they are getting on as well as they did in GP2 I'd put my money on Senna and Chandhok.

That's a very good alternative choice! They are up against it too, down at that end of the grid.

JeremySmith · 20 Apr 2010, 01:30 (Ref:2676276)

The lads at McLaren...

**Bononi** · 20 Apr 2010, 11:35 (Ref:2676481)

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Originally Posted by strider

That's a very good alternative choice! They are up against it too, down at that end of the grid.

Now thinking if they could get a better car...

Knowlesy · 20 Apr 2010, 12:15 (Ref:2676516)

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Originally Posted by Marbot

He's got to be careful though, otherwise 'Teflonso' will point the finger and say (in his own way): 'There! I told you it was him!'

Maybe Lewis is more interested in making Alonso look like the bad guy, rather than being genuinely friendly with Jenson? Not that he didn't get on too well with Heikki, but not really the same thing is it.

There is clutching at straws and then there is this.

Logoff please.

Marbot · 20 Apr 2010, 12:44 (Ref:2676545)

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Originally Posted by Knowlesy

There is clutching at straws and then there is this.

You're probably right. Although I'm still looking forward to their first real on track encounter.

chunder · 20 Apr 2010, 19:49 (Ref:2676858)

I think the best current combo is Alguersari and Buemi! Rarely more than tenths apart in China, I think they are realy pushing each otehr.

Best ever was Scheckter and Villeneuve, Respect, rivalry and friendship. Gilles sat on Jody's rear wing at Monza and with one pass could ahve had a chance to be champ, but they agreed beforehand not to. This is what incensed him so much with Pironi's petulance at Imola in 82, as that was the case there too!

Andretti/Peterson was good. Mansell/Patrese good and productive as was Watson/Lauda.

Super Hans · 20 Apr 2010, 20:44 (Ref:2676894)

Fine examples from history there Chunder.

neilap · 20 Apr 2010, 20:51 (Ref:2676900)

I am with the majority, Mac. They have the best talent and they get along really well. However, I think JB is a better person and would be better able to deal with losing to his teammate than Hamilton would. If ten races in JB is still leading LH I expect the friendliness to be not so friendly anymore.

**Born Racer** · 20 Apr 2010, 21:08 (Ref:2676914)

The novelty will have worn off for Lewis and be replaced by frustration if that heppens.

Best pair? Hamilton and Button, closely followed by Alonso and Massa. Hamilton and Alonso are probably close in terms of ability, but Button is a bit better than Massa in my view. There's more of a gap between them than between the former.

How about Rosberg and Schumacher if Michael ever gets it together?

Marbot · 21 Apr 2010, 00:50 (Ref:2677021)

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Originally Posted by Born Racer

How about Rosberg and Schumacher if Michael ever gets it together?

If, as Murray Walker used to say...........

**Bononi** · 21 Apr 2010, 12:07 (Ref:2677270)

I think the "duo" Michael and Schumacher should get together again before anything...

grantp · 21 Apr 2010, 13:14 (Ref:2677306)

The Rosberg/Schumacher pairig must be perfect for Rosberg.

The other guy gets all the attention allowing Rosberg to get on with racing stuff. Right now that would probably be a huge benefit to him.

**Born Racer** · 21 Apr 2010, 13:19 (Ref:2677313)

I'm delighted to see Rosberg doing so well, after it was widely assumed he was mincemeat.

Belatti · 21 Apr 2010, 14:09 (Ref:2677332)

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Originally Posted by Kirk

Until MS comes to grips with his car, I'd have to question he and Nico as being the best combo at this point. I think right now Lewis and Button have the edge but I don't expect it to last the season.

I thought about Mercedes before the first race, but now I see MS wont come to grip with his car.

See, I think one of MS most incredible qualities was how fast he used to familiarize with any car. When he had a problem in Ferrari they used their money and track to test, test and test till evenings, till he found an improvement.

Now you cant test and resources are limited. And he is old

herowassenna · 21 Apr 2010, 18:03 (Ref:2677440)

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Originally Posted by chunder

I think the best current combo is Alguersari and Buemi! Rarely more than tenths apart in China, I think they are realy pushing each otehr.

Best ever was Scheckter and Villeneuve, Respect, rivalry and friendship. Gilles sat on Jody's rear wing at Monza and with one pass could ahve had a chance to be champ, but they agreed beforehand not to. This is what incensed him so much with Pironi's petulance at Imola in 82, as that was the case there too!

Andretti/Peterson was good. Mansell/Patrese good and productive as was Watson/Lauda.

I'd call the Senna/ Berger combo, the best, then again Berger understood his place and was realistic.

**Born Racer** · 21 Apr 2010, 18:35 (Ref:2677460)

To get back to the past, Hamilton and Alonso was one of the best driver pairings, although I get the distinct impression people are including harmony as an important part of their assessments.

chillibowl · 21 Apr 2010, 19:03 (Ref:2677474)

if its just results surely Schumacher and Barrichello in 2004 made the strongest pairing...i wouldn't call them my favorite pairing but their dominance was overwhelming.

strider · 22 Apr 2010, 00:58 (Ref:2677635)

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Originally Posted by chillibowl

if its just results surely Schumacher and Barrichello in 2004 made the strongest pairing...i wouldn't call them my favorite pairing but their dominance was overwhelming.

Somebody forgetting Senna and Prost in 1988 when they won every race bar one, when Senna was taken out at Monza by Jean-Louis Schlesser?

Mr V · 23 Apr 2010, 19:04 (Ref:2678642)

I thought that the title of the thread was "who has" not "who had"

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