DTM 2012 BMW M3 DTM car - Page 2

redshoes · 14 Jul 2011, 16:57 (Ref:2926676)

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Originally Posted by jellison

http://www.racecar-engineering.com/n...-dtm-revealed/

You'd have to be a BIG fan to spotthe Chap why his "Helmet"!

Looks like Farfus

**FIRE** · 14 Jul 2011, 19:35 (Ref:2926748)

Yep

TF110 · 15 Jul 2011, 05:19 (Ref:2926912)

Uh, this is just a prototype. The bodywork is going to change even from the official launch of the car.

erale · 15 Jul 2011, 08:39 (Ref:2926957)

More pictures:

http://www.autobild.de/bilder/bilder...g-1860749.html

Japanese Samurai · 15 Jul 2011, 10:33 (Ref:2927010)

Twin exhaust have been biased right side.
This is because it is a left-hand drive. It seems that the safty survival cell monocoque of the DTM style is adopted (not current GT500 style monocoque) in Next-Gen DTM/SGT car.
According to Japanese AUTOSPORT, ITR valued the safety of the driver about the regulation unification problem.

Speed-King · 15 Jul 2011, 12:47 (Ref:2927058)

Not good, the more I see of it, the less I like it.

And it looks really big, doesn't it?

gustavobamba · 15 Jul 2011, 13:03 (Ref:2927066)

This concept race car is just amazing

PorscheFanNo1 · 15 Jul 2011, 13:07 (Ref:2927067)

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Originally Posted by gustavobamba

This concept race car is just amazing

Have to agree, looks really agressive. However, I'm not a fan of the rear wing... I like high wings, but that swan neck and how far behind that car it is just look out of place, move the wing 20cm forward and ban swan neck and it would be spot on.

Scott75 · 15 Jul 2011, 13:47 (Ref:2927082)

Is the launch today (Friday) or tomorrow?? Hanging out to see the car properly...

DS" · 15 Jul 2011, 14:18 (Ref:2927101)

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Originally Posted by Scott75

Is the launch today (Friday) or tomorrow?? Hanging out to see the car properly...

I guess they'll show the car tomorrow, so they can show it on tv.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed-king

Not good, the more I see of it, the less I like it.

And it looks really big, doesn't it?

I tend to agree. If you look at the picture (http://www.autobild.de/bilder/bilder...812.html#bild2), you see the white spot behind the right rear tire. So will they keep the flaps after all? Marquardt has said that the car will change its appearance till it races at Hockenheim 2012 after all. As of now, I really hope for the best though.

jellison · 15 Jul 2011, 14:42 (Ref:2927110)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

Twin exhaust have been biased right side.
This is because it is a left-hand drive. It seems that the safty survival cell monocoque of the DTM style is adopted (not current GT500 style monocoque) in Next-Gen DTM/SGT car.
According to Japanese AUTOSPORT, ITR valued the safety of the driver about the regulation unification problem.

Aren't they trying to get a set of regs where the Bonkers Jap Super GT's can race with DTM and vice versa, very similar bar the tubs, one carbon , one more space frame.

Think they are trying to pull together. Make sense.

Acid09 · 15 Jul 2011, 16:24 (Ref:2927128)

The presentation of the new car is today, it will be on display in the BMW Welt starting tomorrow.

The emphasis on safety for the new car is definetely a wise decision, the new-era DTM has seen some nasty crashes already like the Kristensen & Premat shunts.

erale · 15 Jul 2011, 18:22 (Ref:2927163)

Pictures from the presentation:

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/b...e-3915954.html

**FIRE** · 15 Jul 2011, 19:16 (Ref:2927176)

The wheel arches look weird and the rear wing is ugly as hell.
Comparing the BMW GT2 car and this BMW DTM car is like beauty and the beast.
Conclusion: Still way to much aero.

helgi · 15 Jul 2011, 19:16 (Ref:2927177)

A little bit of 20 years old Trans-Am.

Speed-King · 15 Jul 2011, 19:36 (Ref:2927187)

20 years ago, Trans-Am cars didn't have wings, and that was all for the better...

helgi · 15 Jul 2011, 19:43 (Ref:2927192)

But they did have huge spoilers a-la NASCAR and rather strange dimensions.

Speed-King · 15 Jul 2011, 19:55 (Ref:2927197)

Yeah, but I kinda like that, and of course it made for spectacular looks without going overboard with the aero-stuff.

redshoes · 15 Jul 2011, 20:28 (Ref:2927209)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

The wheel arches look weird and the rear wing is ugly as hell.
Comparing the BMW GT2 car and this BMW DTM car is like beauty and the beast.
Conclusion: Still way to much aero.

Agreed. Hadn't spotted them in the spy shot but still too many little winglets. Side-on it looks like a BMW roof grafted over the top of a current Mercedes body.

helgi · 15 Jul 2011, 22:24 (Ref:2927238)

Not more winglets than any GT3 car has.

awrb · 15 Jul 2011, 23:02 (Ref:2927249)

i'm not too keen, but it certainly looks aggressive. I'll wait til I see them racing to pass opinion I think. One thing that's annoying me is the headlights, does it have them or not? I know it's a small thing but it really looks stupid with them blacked out.

Acid09 · 15 Jul 2011, 23:06 (Ref:2927251)

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Originally Posted by awrb

i'm not too keen, but it certainly looks aggressive. I'll wait til I see them racing to pass opinion I think. One thing that's annoying me is the headlights, does it have them or not? I know it's a small thing but it really looks stupid with them blacked out.

Yes the DTM cars have headlights... keep in mind this is only a concept car, not the final design.

JAG · 16 Jul 2011, 00:01 (Ref:2927265)

Looks less like a touring car than current cars, the BMW doesn't even resemble a 3-series.

erale · 16 Jul 2011, 07:24 (Ref:2927331)

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Originally Posted by JAG

Looks less like a touring car than current cars, the BMW doesn't even resemble a 3-series.

Well it looks like the base is the current M3. And it's clearly visible.

DS" · 16 Jul 2011, 08:41 (Ref:2927341)

I'm positively surprised. The rear winglet really seem to be gone for good. The cars will finally get a real rear wing (the current twin-tier wing sucked in my opinion), yet the car looks spectacular. Like a mish-mash between GT2 and DTM 2000-03. Hopefully the racing on the track will start to improve.

And I like Priaulx and Farfus as drivers. Hopefully they'll show the DTM drivers what real touring car drivers are about.

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