[LM24 Race] 2012 Le Mans auto invites .

[gwyllion]

Originally Posted by The Badger

From what I understand , its only 1st placed cars from ALMS .

What is your source for that? The table on p. 25 of http://www.lemans.org/wpphpFichiers/...egulations.pdf suggests 2 auto-invites for ALMS in every class.

[The Badger]

http://www.mariantic.co.uk/lmp/Lemans10.asp

So , then Cytosports and ? who have an automatic entry then . You may now update the list please .

Im just trying to get an accurate pic of what we can expect to see . Once we have that list correct , we can start knocking stuff off as we hear what intentions are .

[Bentley03]

Great work Mr B!

Regardless of 'hypotheticals', it's a very useful reference thread.

[Mal]

As time goes on if the WEC is successful then more and more (if not all) of the LM entry will have to come from WEC - unless they reintroduce pre qualifying.

[The Badger]

Originally Posted by Bentley03

Great work Mr B!

Regardless of 'hypotheticals', it's a very useful reference thread.

Well , the only hypotheticals are the WEC entries . As I dont know the entry list . Just workin of rumour .

All the others have invitations , now , weather they exercise these invitations is another matter .

Im just tryin to weedle it down , and over the next weeks as intentions become clearer , so will this list .

People , please feel free to update as your hear news . For example if we hear Dyson will not be there , knock it off the list .

[The Badger]

Originally Posted by Mal

As time goes on if the WEC is successful then more and more (if not all) of the LM entry will have to come from WEC - unless they reintroduce pre qualifying.

Not sure I like the sound of that Mal ..... but yeah .

[Deleted]

Originally Posted by The Badger

So , then Cytosports and ? who have an automatic entry then . You may now update the list please .

Cytosport and 2nd Corvette.

[The Badger]

LMP1
1-Audi Sport Team Joest
2-Team Peugeot Total
3-Dyson Racing
4-Team Peugeot Total
5-Team Peugeot Total
6-Rebellion Racing
8-Pescarolo Sports
9-Pescarolo Sports Green X
10-Dyson Racing Green X
11-Cytosports




LMP2
1-Greaves Motorsports
2-Signatech
3-Greaves Motorsports
4-Strakka Racing
5-Pegasus FLM invite
6-Level 5
7-Level 5




GT/PRO
1-Corvette Racing
2-AF Corse
3-BMW RLL
4-AF Corse
5-Flying Lizards
6-Corvette Racing
6-Luxury Racing
8-JMW
9-BWM RLL Green X


GT/AM
1-Larbre Competition
2-Larbre Competition
3-Krohn Racing
4-AF Corse
5-IMSA
6-AF Corse
7-Krohn Racing

Pit #56 Delta Wing

Ok , Ive taken out the expected WEC entries . As some were speculation . Above is the list of auto invites , as it stands now . Weather the various teams exercise their invite or not , is neither here nor there .

Please feel free to update this if you know more . We will try to stay on top of things .

[911targa]

Due to already earning two automatic invitations, AF Corse's automatic entry for winning in the LMGTE Pro category at Petit Le Mans was instead awarded to second place Flying Lizard Motorsports. AF Corse's automatic entry for winning the GT category Energy Endurance Challenge in the Le Mans Series was also awarded to second place JMW Motorsport.(from wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_24...Mans#endnote_1

[Duff_44]

Originally Posted by gwyllion

What is your source for that? The table on p. 25 of http://www.lemans.org/wpphpFichiers/...egulations.pdf suggests 2 auto-invites for ALMS in every class.

Exactly what I was looking for!

[Coach Ep]

I´m not sure if I understand the process correctly so I´ll just throw this one in:

What´s the sequence of reserves once a competitor reaches more than 2 auto invites? Is the table (as published in the sporting regs.) leading? And if so, how does it work?

For example P2:

LM24 1 = Greaves
PLM - 1 = Level 5
LMS - 1 & 2 = Greaves + Strakka
ALMS - 1 & 2 = Level 5 + Level 5??
Asian LMS - 1 = no one
Green X LMS/ALMS = no one (not applied in P2)
FLM - 1 = Pegasus

So, this would mean that Level 5 gets 3 auto entries but looses one because of the maximum-2-per-team-rule. Will this 3rd auto entry be replaced by the LM24 2nd placed P2 car or the 3rd placed ALMS-standings P2 car (who the hell would that be, United???). Or would it just be canceled in order to free up space for other WEC or ´outside´ competitors???

Complicated stuff! - But that´s why we love sportscar racing, don´t we?

[The Badger]

http://www.mariantic.co.uk/lmp/Lemans10.asp

[vincegail]

Originally Posted by Mal

As time goes on if the WEC is successful then more and more (if not all) of the LM entry will have to come from WEC - unless they reintroduce pre qualifying.

I like this prospect! PQ is more entertaining than just plain testing in my book!

[Steptoe]

Originally Posted by vincegail

I like this prospect! PQ is more entertaining than just plain testing in my book!

Agreed sorts out the men from the boys to make more exiting race field.

[vincegail]

Originally Posted by Steptoe

Agreed sorts out the men from the boys to make more exiting race field.

JLOC Lambos anyone?

[Aysedasi]

I always worry about the concept of many a true word spoken in jest........

[jo1998sh]

ACO publish official le mans auto invites

http://www.lemans.org/wpphpFichiers/...ffice_2012.pdf

[FstrthnU]

http://www.planetlemans.com/2011/11/...ns+Newsfeed%29
Here's the same list on Planet Le Mans for people who don't like PDFs.

[Simmi]

It's pretty funny that after such a seemingly dominating season Peugeot only got the one auto entry - the same as Audi. That's not an issue as all they both need is one alongside their two full-season WEC cars.

It also turned out to be wrong that multiple auto-invites would allow second-placed cars to get in in some cases? So Flying Lizards can't get in even though AF Corse picked up 4. Or is it a case of AF Corse having to 'choose' which of the four they want to keep for entry then looking at who was second?

[carsten66]

Originally Posted by Simmi

It's pretty funny that after such a seemingly dominating season Peugeot only got the one auto entry - the same as Audi. That's not an issue as all they both need is one alongside their two full-season WEC cars.

It also turned out to be wrong that multiple auto-invites would allow second-placed cars to get in in some cases? So Flying Lizards can't get in even though AF Corse picked up 4. Or is it a case of AF Corse having to 'choose' which of the four they want to keep for entry then looking at who was second?

The regulations are defining that an entrant cannot have more than two entries. AF Corse will have to choose between the four awarded entries... and doubtless they also will have at least one Pro and one Am full season WEC car... that would make 6 entries.

[Fogelhund]

Originally Posted by Mal

As time goes on if the WEC is successful then more and more (if not all) of the LM entry will have to come from WEC - unless they reintroduce pre qualifying.

..and LM will have isolated itself once again. 'Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me'

[Mal]

Originally Posted by Fogelhund

..and LM will have isolated itself once again. 'Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me'

Not if they re-introduce pre qualifying.

There is also the chance that if the WEC proves very successful they could take LM24 out of the championship and return it to a stand alone invitation event. Including it at the stage add massive credibility to it but once it is self sufficient that may not still be necessary.

[Fogelhund]

Has the ACO said anything about re-introducing pre-Q?

[courageous]

Dyson to take up their invites?
http://t.co/PDcmoYCL

[Simmi]

Originally Posted by courageous

Dyson to take up their invites?
http://t.co/PDcmoYCL

Would be great if Dyson did go with some good support from Mazda. I honestly think if they did make the trip then Muscle Milk would follow them across.