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There's 2 years left in the V8 contract so I reckon it will be gone by September next year
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Really though, you should come and watch at those tracks at some stage, especially Sandown grandstand while you can. All great tracks to attend Then you wouldnt even question it the need to spend more for the paying public That being said, as ive said a number of times on this forum, Winton is great. |
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Well, they could sell the property and race it as a street circuit.
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We've seen this business model before. Build a race track on the outskirts of town, run it for a few decades and then cash out for big bucks at some point.
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Sadly, whether that exact intention is there or not, it's the only way to go, without pouring a whole heap of money down the toilet trying to keep the council and EPA off your case.
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If it doesn't make financial sense, don't hold the meeting.
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Winton Pushing For Long Term Deal With VASC
If it's such an economic cataclysm, why do the circuits keep asking to extend their deals..... |
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There's a fair chance they're under a bit of pressure from the local chamber of commerce to ensure the event takes place.
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I don't see why it's such an issue for Supercars to pay for the privilege of using the Winton facilities? Maybe if they did they would get the upgrades they stamp their feet about requiring. And why should everyone else pay for the rich boys to get richer? Not a great way to build the grassroots of the sport is it? |
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80,000 people (over 3 days) (when i write it down i notice its more than double a certain GT3 event) turned up to watch the v8s, But you are suggesting that Winton should keep all that money |
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Still why do winton want v8s if its a loss maker, must be some benefit that is not being disclosed, maybe its the related track hire for test and media days or the local council doing certain things in exgange for them having the event |
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IMO Phillip Island should have a enduro event (500km) and a sprint round and 2 different times of the year.
This years event was pretty quite on the island - I have a place there and you hardly noticed the V8's were in town - pretty similar to world superbikes. The biggest event other than MotoGP is historics. Over the last few weeks on weekdays there has been alot of GT testing and even a HSV V8 Supercar last Wednesday. First time I've had a chance to hear the M6 sounds great. Plan on going down Sunday for this weekends GT event. |
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Do bands make the venue build its stage for them and pay for it? No they do not, they provide the venue and the venue must be returned to the state it was in prior to the event. What is your issue with the big boys of the sport, who are this supposed super professional business that needs to be subsidised by those who struggle to be involved in the sport they love? Without these people the sport will die! What does GT3 have to do with this? Must you turn everything into a **** fight? |
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No. However if the facilities aren't there, they just don't play there.
Cities everywhere build or upgrade facilities to attract teams/events/performers. We have seen it in the US, Europe and especially in the middle east. Closer to home Perth built a new arena to attract events and performers and are in the process of building a new stadium for football. This is the same on a smaller scale. |
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But let me confirm that when ACDC comes to town, they get paid for being at the event, they dont own or build a venue. They are richer than v8 supercars but get paid for being there. Why is there have double standards on this? When v8 supercars promote their own event they pay the track a fee and keep the gate. In the case of Winton, Winton pay a fee to v8 supercars and keep the gate. V8 supercars are not forcing Winton to have them Both of these are common in event management throughout the world. Just found it amusing when reading the crowd number it was double the 12 hour, which funnily enough gets government funding to run. Its interesting that when v8 supercars shake the can, the pro GT3 fans come out against this. Interesting double standard |
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