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If Supercars are retaining the IP, and if the car appears at an event of theirs, then surely that is a sign they still endorse the product
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Wasn't it rumored Josh Kean actually tested the thing not long ago? Pretty sure it was an Auto Action sourced story though so take that for what it's worth
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Heh, Supercars would like to have everyone think they have distanced themselves and have no involvement. The whole project reeks of arrogance and ego's unfortunately but given who's involved it could succeed.
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6 May 2017, 03:49 (Ref:3731385) | #30 | |
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Chris Lambden got pretty stuck in on the whole topic in AA this week, Supercars gets a few mentions too
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Certain people who are suppliers to Supercars are trying to protect their interests but Chris Lambden is way off base with his vitriol. Plus also... How can you get so upset of a "copycat" of something that is a "copycat" of an old Formula... |
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I'd think that Supercars does still have an involvement when you consider that they actually own the rights to the category.
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It's not fair you've copied my copy! Lol
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The more logical question right now is how CAMS allowed 2 almost identical open wheeler categories to develop in parallel..
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Your comment about Lambden's idea being just a "copycat" of an old formula is ridiculous. That is like saying V8Supercars is just a copycat of the original years of Group C. It's a modern rule-set using principles that proved successful in the past....just like the basis for V8Supercars Supercars have a history of spraying vitriol of things they consider to be "copycat" formula's anyway, remember Junior Touring? Or is that OK because it's Supercars and they can do anything they want? Quote:
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Thing is, you can have a ft5000 for 250k which has an engine which can run to 10k before major maintenance or another which will cost north of 400 with an engine requiring 5k rebuilds and the need for a dedicated engine technician at each round. The "other" 5000 doesn't even utilise a stressed rear end.
What they have though is the ability to support supercar rounds. It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out. Last edited by Ospi; 7 May 2017 at 03:46. |
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It's nothing new in motorsport, regardless of discipline.
There'll always be multiple governing bodies, catagories that overlap, breakaway series, etc. It all boils down to egos and money in the end. |
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Well at some point one of them will wish to seek some sort of affiliation with CAMS.
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interesting read. Light on in sources or facts, high in speculation
Makes a James Phelps article look good |
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Quotes from Supercars, Lambden and Greg Siddle is light on sources? I think your Peter Mckay dislike has gotten in your way of reading the article...especially as the article comes across more positively for Super5000 than FT5000.....
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So does this Supercars car actually exist , has anyone seen a photo of this "car"?
I think it is just a myth. If they are fair dinkum lets see some hard evidence, if not then let Chris Lambden get on with his project without unnecessary and unwarranted distraction. If there is some ulterior motive then it is a pretty poor reflection on Australian motorsport. |
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The fact that, according to the article, the "Super5000" concept is only intended to just be a support act at the main Supercars events is already a poor reflection on Australian motorsport
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