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25 Apr 2002, 16:49 (Ref:270499)
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25 Apr 2002, 16:52 (Ref:270502)
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Yeah, but what would you do? Get average results with 2 teams or win with only one of them? Besides, this is extremely stimulative for the second team: improve the performances and be the chosen one next year.
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25 Apr 2002, 16:53 (Ref:270503)
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I hope it does backfire. Teams spend too much money in F1 to be sold out by their tire manufacturer. Teams will have no faith in their tires. As if Bridgestone does not have enough problems with their Firestone line. Now they are digging a deeper hole. Wish 'em the worst.
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25 Apr 2002, 16:56 (Ref:270504)
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yes Red, your right.......you go for the win with 1 team, but that doesn't make it fair for the other 4 teams that are contracted to you!
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25 Apr 2002, 16:59 (Ref:270506)
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Sadly but very true. But as you previously said, it's business. Me the tyre manufacturer want to beat the competition and/or to be "fair". In that order.
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25 Apr 2002, 17:04 (Ref:270508)
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Maybe if there was a championship for tires, with all points scored counting, the tire companies would pay attention to more than just one team. Someone here pointed out that Michelin tires have scored waaaaay more points, but a Bridgestone tire runner is ahead in the driver's points. So there would be little point in favoring one team if it cost you the tire maker's championship. If you are a tire maker, the tire championship is what would be important.
It could offer a patrial solution. It would also be a good reward for the tire companies. |
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25 Apr 2002, 17:28 (Ref:270534)
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i think your idea could make things even worse doc.....lets use ferrari as an example, if there was a "tyre constructors cup" the bridgestone tyre would be even more dialed in to the ferrari than it already i (if thats possible) and the team would score even more 1-2's..and 16 points, the michelins could take the other 4 points scoring positions.but that only equals 10 points total....and the remaining 4 bridgestone teams are in even more trouble!
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25 Apr 2002, 17:32 (Ref:270539)
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That's a good idea Doc !
And this can motivate teams to have an official tyre supplier. Which will mean that others will look up for new suppliers, and then we can have 5 or more tyre suppliers in F1. Like ahnnn.... Ferrari/Ferrari/Bridgestone McLaren/Mercedes/GoodYear Williams/BMW/Michelin Renault/Renault/Pirelli 
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25 Apr 2002, 17:38 (Ref:270551)
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....Grrr...
Yeah, and we're back to the same situation. Only the top six scoring... so, the tyres suppliers would only be interest in the 3 top teams. 
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25 Apr 2002, 17:52 (Ref:270569)
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not nessessarily Bon, the 4 teams you mentioned will all be capable of winning gp's and with 4 different tyre suppliers it would make things very interesting!
the Doc's idea is a good 1......but the point i'm trying to make there is that bridgestone have ferrari, they don't really need another team, but if you had 5 tyre suppliers, each with a top 5 team and then with a 6th - 11th team it would make things more interesting as each supplier would only hae 2 teams to concern themselves with! |
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25 Apr 2002, 18:00 (Ref:270583)
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i've been giving this a little more thought.(sorry if i'm boring you now!) about the docs idea of a tyre constructors cup and if you took the top 5 teams and put them all on a different tyre and then paired each team up with the opposite end of the ladder..........i.e. ferrari with minardi etc then it could work! the best making up for the worst etc!
here's how i think it could work (pairings) numbers in brackets indicate where i think the teams are in terms of ability! bridgestone.....(1) ferrari and arrows (10) minardi (11) michelin........(2) williams and jaguar (9) goodyear........(3) mclaren and bar (8) pirelli.........(4) renault and jordan (7) dunlop..........(5) sauber and toyota (6) |
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