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Old 18 Mar 2005, 06:30 (Ref:1254969)   #26
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Could this be concern from the "bigger" teams that they don't want to stress their engines as a consequence of the two race per engine rule? If so, why didn't the smaller teams also be more conservative in their driving?

Because they have nothing to lose if they need to change their engines - they'd still be in the back rows anyway!

Also, if the smaller teams are the only ones on the track then this is their chance to monopolise TV coverage (as come race day there won't be much focus on them) and this benefits the sponsors.
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Old 18 Mar 2005, 06:52 (Ref:1254974)   #27
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Liuzzi has a bit of a problem. Sure, he seems quick over a lap or two but I'd be surprised if his job is to throw the thing in the gravel every second weekend. Surely the idea is to rack miles of on the non race car..... not much of a team player it would seem,
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Old 18 Mar 2005, 06:57 (Ref:1254975)   #28
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Because they have nothing to lose if they need to change their engines - they'd still be in the back rows anyway!
and, generally, the ones doing the laps are the ones that won't be in the race.

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Old 18 Mar 2005, 07:10 (Ref:1254979)   #29
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According to www.f1racing.net TGF and JB have new engines.
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Old 18 Mar 2005, 07:19 (Ref:1254981)   #30
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Old 18 Mar 2005, 07:22 (Ref:1254982)   #31
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Times from the second session:

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1.  F. Massa       1:35.608          19
2.  J. Montoya     1:35.620   0.012  13
3.  R. Zonta       1:35.677   0.069  30
4.  K. Raikkonen   1:35.719   0.111   6
5.  R. Schumacher  1:35.838   0.230  16
6.  G. Fisichella  1:35.841   0.233  16
7.  R. Barrichello 1:35.949   0.341   7
8.  J. Button      1:35.992   0.384  19
9.  F. Alonso      1:36.103   0.495  15
10. D. Coulthard   1:36.575   0.967  20
11. J. Trulli      1:36.841   1.233  18
12. C. Klien       1:36.968   1.360  19
13. P. de la Rosa  1:37.033   1.425  31
14. T. Sato        1:37.044   1.436  18
15. N. Heidfeld    1:37.067   1.459  17
16. M. Schumacher  1:37.270   1.662  22
17. R. Doornbos    1:37.878   2.270  23
18. J. Villeneuve  1:38.121   2.513  19
19. N. Karthikeyan 1:38.855   3.247  21
20. V. Liuzzi      1:39.349   3.741  11
21. T. Monteiro    1:39.755   4.147  21
22. P. Friesacher  1:40.940   5.332  19
23. C. Albers      1:41.156   5.548  16
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Old 18 Mar 2005, 07:24 (Ref:1254983)   #32
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F1's all about pressure.

You're either applying it or under it.

That may explain why Felipe Massa wanted to do a "flier"....
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Old 18 Mar 2005, 07:27 (Ref:1254987)   #33
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Times all over the place really,nothing to see here i don't think.
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Old 18 Mar 2005, 08:59 (Ref:1255018)   #34
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From what ive seen the guys are just coasting on the straights..... definately conserving the engines....

But what i dont understand is why Zonta and De la Rosa set such slow times..... I thought they would be flying as they dont have to conserve anything....
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Old 18 Mar 2005, 09:01 (Ref:1255022)   #35
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Well Zonta set a decent time in the second practice. I guess you don't have to set the time sheets alight to gain good data. In theory they should only be running race pace.

Looking at the times from P1, Zonta, de la Rosa and Luizzi were the quickest three!

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TGF had an engine change?

No F2005 for Bahrain then...
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Old 18 Mar 2005, 09:53 (Ref:1255049)   #37
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According to www.f1racing.net TGF and JB have new engines.
I can't find this story. Perhaps they're too busy running a story about how Heidfeld and Schumacher didn't have a scrap after the collision

According to a item on autosport.com yesterday TGF is to use the same engine:
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But as preparations build for the second race of the season a Ferrari spokesman confirmed: "Michael will be using the same engine as he used in the first race of the season in Australia."

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You don't think Ferrari would let Rubens in the F2005 before Michael?
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Old 18 Mar 2005, 10:30 (Ref:1255065)   #39
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the times were not a very good bench mark....the track was covered in dust and sand ...slighlty off line and there was zero grip it looked...maybe tomorrow with be more realistic as the track cleans up a bit ..
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Liuzzi has a bit of a problem. Sure, he seems quick over a lap or two but I'd be surprised if his job is to throw the thing in the gravel every second weekend. Surely the idea is to rack miles of on the non race car..... not much of a team player it would seem,

he has a bit of a problem alright - his suspension failed!
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Old 18 Mar 2005, 11:03 (Ref:1255093)   #41
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According to planetf1.com, Peter Sauber is quoted as saying that Villeneuve and Massa were running wildly differing fuel loads and tyre choices in the second session:

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Felipe and Jacques ran different tyre specifications and fuel loads at different times, so the gap between them is not representative. We are satisfied with what we have learned today, and will use that go faster still tomorrow.
Full article is here .

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Old 18 Mar 2005, 19:54 (Ref:1255439)   #42
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Liuzzi has a bit of a problem. Sure, he seems quick over a lap or two but I'd be surprised if his job is to throw the thing in the gravel every second weekend. Surely the idea is to rack miles of on the non race car..... not much of a team player it would seem,
You should read what the drivers have to say after the practice session before saying things like that.
Like Rick said, he had a suspension failure.

quote from Liuzzi after practice 2:
"Overall it was a good day for us. During the first session we showed that we can be pretty quick but unfortunately in the second I had a suspension failure, which caused me to spin in the corner before the last, and I had to stop. But overall the car seems quite good and I think we are in good shape again for the race. David and Christian have some more time in the car in the morning and I think we have enough information to choose the tyres and get a good set-up for tomorrow."
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