DTM - Spa - Page 2

429CJ · 15 May 2005, 18:31 (Ref:1301632)

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Originally Posted by Kicking-back

Thank god for the tarmac run off and tyre walls at Eau Rouge - that accident for Bernd Schneider was in so many ways a repeat of the one that cost Stefan Bellof his life twenty years ago.

The Ickx/Bellof accident rose on my mind also, when I saw this crash.

**FIRE** · 15 May 2005, 18:43 (Ref:1301644)

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Originally Posted by 429CJ

The Ickx/Bellof accident rose on my mind also, when I saw this crash.

And that of Cor Euser in his Marcos LM600 last year.

Hazard · 15 May 2005, 20:57 (Ref:1301746)

It was a fair race. Good performance from Mika, and others (Aiello 'on form')...but all in all, I think there were more drivers driving shabby races than their were drivers having a good one.

toot toot · 16 May 2005, 06:35 (Ref:1301909)

Great race. Awesome by Mika, if he can carry on this form he could spoil paffets season. What has Green got to do to get good result this season, undoubtedly his pit stops will have been hampered by spenglers, rotten luck.

p.s.Glad to hear Carlton Kirby was as crap as ever on the Motors TV commentary!

Kicking-back · 16 May 2005, 06:55 (Ref:1301915)

Yes - Carlton was awful.

He doesn't look at what's happening, has prejudiced views of any driver and incident, rather than making judgements on the facts, constantly laughs at himself, has no correct balance of when to be serious and when to be light-hearted, makes things up.

Downright terrible.

Bernard Bram · 16 May 2005, 07:15 (Ref:1301921)

Anything has to be better than Klaus Ludwig on German television. What is it with motorsports and tv that we are always complaining about the commentry? Maybe a subject for another thread

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I was quite disappointed by the big gaps in the field. There were some great fights between some drivers, but overall performance varies greatly, considering this is nearly a spec series. 30 seconds between first and sixth, another 20 second to ninth and then 6 seconds to 14th place.

Bezzen · 16 May 2005, 11:54 (Ref:1302112)

A great race by Mika!

Too bad Ekström's first pitstop was so bad, because he would then have got out of the pits in front of Mika. Would have been fun to see them battle it out. I think the outcome would have been the same, but I'm sure there would have been some nice overtaking/blocking action going on for a lap or two.

Kempi · 16 May 2005, 12:34 (Ref:1302161)

I really don't know what Schneider was thinking. Okay, Aiello didn't leave him any room, but you simply don't try to pass into Eau Rouge. The corner is hard enough with a single car, trying to make two cars stick at full racing speed is crazy.

John Winter · 16 May 2005, 13:34 (Ref:1302198)

Anyone who likes to see last years DTM-racer Jeroen Bleekemolen race can see him over here. He's racing in the BRL V6 and is currently in the lead, after already winning race 1 on saturday.

**FIRE** · 16 May 2005, 13:43 (Ref:1302206)

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Originally Posted by John Winter

Anyone who likes to see last years DTM-racer Jeroen Bleekemolen race can see him over here. He's racing in the BRL V6 and is currently in the lead, after already winning race 1 on saturday.

I think it will be a 2nd win for him.

EDIT: he will not win (technical problems)

John Winter · 16 May 2005, 13:45 (Ref:1302207)

Damn

I hope Donald or Donny will win.

**touringlegend** · 16 May 2005, 17:27 (Ref:1302376)

Spot on with the commentary there K-B. I taped the DTM on Sky+ and sat down to watch it slightly delayed so i ended up fast-forwarding most of it, I just can't find any entertainment at all. For a guy who's meant to commentate on a series, he has a very poor grasp of who's in each different car.

If only Ben Edwards could be cloned...

Kicking-back · 16 May 2005, 19:28 (Ref:1302504)

Does anyone know Carlton's background?

A web-search reveals little.

I get the impression he's a shopping channel voice-over man rather than anyone with any knowledge of, or passion for, motorsport.

Ian Sowman · 16 May 2005, 19:35 (Ref:1302511)

If Carlton struggles with 20 cars just as well he wasn't at Donington yesterday with 450! Not saying I did a perfect job, but someone did comment today that I was better than James Allen

Oh, hang on - that wasn't a compliment, was it?

Hazard · 16 May 2005, 19:49 (Ref:1302523)

To give Carlton a bit of leeway, these Mercedes permanantly swapping paint jobs, and Audi's with split sponsorships between teams and cars is really confusing.

I can work out the Opel's okay...the red one's Frentzen, the blue & white one's Fassler, the black one's Aiello - and the Valvoline car is Reuter (thanks Peter!)

But Spengler, Alesi & Green give me issues (from a distance) - and the Audi's outside of the Red Bull cars are a nightmare.

Kicking-back · 16 May 2005, 19:54 (Ref:1302526)

It's not just his car identification that's the problem.

JAG · 17 May 2005, 17:18 (Ref:1303090)

Anyone else heard the rumour that Audi are either pulling, or reducing their DTM involvement next year.

Trying to find out if theres any substance behind the rumours or not.

kmchow · 17 May 2005, 17:34 (Ref:1303099)

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Originally Posted by JAG

Anyone else heard the rumour that Audi are either pulling, or reducing their DTM involvement next year.

Trying to find out if theres any substance behind the rumours or not.

Considering Opel's leaving and there hasn't been a replacement manufacturer found, I'm not suprised if Audi does pull out. I hope they only reduce their involvement and not a full pullout!

Could the DTM survive as a privateer series?

**FIRE** · 17 May 2005, 17:35 (Ref:1303100)

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Originally Posted by JAG

Anyone else heard the rumour that Audi are either pulling, or reducing their DTM involvement next year.

Trying to find out if theres any substance behind the rumours or not.

Not heard.
As visiter of the Sportscar section of this forum you know Audi is developing the R10 and I expect these cars will be runned by Joest. So probably Joest will not compete in DTM next year.

kmchow · 17 May 2005, 23:26 (Ref:1303349)

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Originally Posted by Hazard

To give Carlton a bit of leeway, these Mercedes permanantly swapping paint jobs, and Audi's with split sponsorships between teams and cars is really confusing.

If swapping paint jobs/sponsors is what's necessary to keep MB on the grid, then I'm okay with it. Are they swapping paint jobs or actual cars? IE: Does Hakinnen get Chassis 1 all season, but with different paint jobs or is he switching between Chassis 1-4? That's quite expensive to swap paint jobs alone?

**gomick** · 19 May 2005, 12:40 (Ref:1304552)

congrats to mika, great drive at a great track

- wish we could see these races downunder

SALEEN S7R · 19 May 2005, 13:09 (Ref:1304575)

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Originally Posted by gomick

congrats to mika, great drive at a great track

- wish we could see these races downunder

You can, if u have broadband. Id guess 500-750k connection would be good enough. http://sbs.dtm.garnierstreamingmedia.com/player/ Hope thats of some use to u.

**gomick** · 20 May 2005, 21:55 (Ref:1305743)

thanks SALEEN S7R, but still living in the 1990's with a dial-up connection

SALEEN S7R · 20 May 2005, 23:35 (Ref:1305787)

Ah bummer, oh well never mind. Do u really get NO coverage at all? Even a 5 minute highlight clip on a programme i mean sort of thing.