Driver of the race: European GP - Page 2

**Peter Mallett** · 30 May 2005, 14:33 (Ref:1314725)

Er. P4?

**Aysedasi** · 30 May 2005, 14:37 (Ref:1314730)

Coulthard for me - terrific performance.

jet · 30 May 2005, 15:22 (Ref:1314770)

Coulthard for me he did a very good race and scored 5 points

GP Racer · 30 May 2005, 18:16 (Ref:1314908)

Had to go with Fisi myself.

He took another terrible start, and slowly and methodically drove himself into some good points. Nicely done!

Menelaos · 30 May 2005, 18:33 (Ref:1314919)

Kimi drove very well and his being able to keep the car on track with this tyre was superb. However, it was his own mistake that destroyed the tyre, so you can't really say he was the best driver yesterday. DC now, he drove great as well, but he made a totally stupid mistake at the first stop, so the same goes for him. NH could have been second behind Kimi if things went logically and the stupid accident at corner 1 hadn't ruined the race of many drivers

ralf fan · 30 May 2005, 19:27 (Ref:1314985)

I voted Rubens.... he's had a tough time the past week but completely outpaced MS this weekend (how often do we say that)....

I wish we could vote for two drivers because DC deserves it as well....

JohnSSC · 30 May 2005, 20:07 (Ref:1315030)

You are correct Peter - P-4! Sometimes the typing is not quite up to par!

**Peter Mallett** · 30 May 2005, 20:16 (Ref:1315045)

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Originally Posted by Menelaos

Kimi drove very well and his being able to keep the car on track with this tyre was superb. However, it was his own mistake that destroyed the tyre, so you can't really say he was the best driver yesterday. DC now, he drove great as well, but he made a totally stupid mistake at the first stop, so the same goes for him. NH could have been second behind Kimi if things went logically and the stupid accident at corner 1 hadn't ruined the race of many drivers

I haven't welcomed you to our forum, so a big welcome to a Greek King(?) correct me if I'm wrong here.

Anyway whilst I totally agree with your thoughts here, I'd like to know who you voted for. Specifically the NH being second to Kimi thing. He was not affected by the turn one melee and as we know, second for the first stint until he pitted. That was because he was running less fuel than the Macaroon. Hence he was never going to be better than 3rd if the Macaroon won. Saying that (and I assume you are a Nick fan) he did bloody well to be there at the end and he'd be my driver of the day but for DC's performance.

Robert · 30 May 2005, 21:35 (Ref:1315138)

Has to be Kimi, it must take big balls to drive a car in the state that that one was in. If DC hadn't messed up in the pitlane I would have said him, special mention to him anyway.

Robert

Jordi · 30 May 2005, 22:17 (Ref:1315174)

DC? He took advantage of the mess and kept there. Otherwise he'd been amongst 10th place. I'm not saying he drove badly, but I don't think he drove the race of his life either.

It's Rubens for me. Outclassed MS in qualifying and did not go off like Alonso, Kimi and MS did. Gives Ferrari some hope with his podium.

Logrence · 30 May 2005, 22:39 (Ref:1315193)

Rubens lucked into a podium - with Kimi finishing and DC being in front of him he would have been 5th. I hate what-ifs, though. So...anyway, DC for me - top drive from him, his team-mate was nowhere and he showed great skill and maturity in steering himself to a great points finish.

**John Turner** · 31 May 2005, 07:50 (Ref:1315418)

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Originally Posted by Jordi

DC? He took advantage of the mess and kept there. Otherwise he'd been amongst 10th place. I'm not saying he drove badly, but I don't think he drove the race of his life either.

Jordi, I think your key point is '.... and kept there'. I think most would have expected DC to drift backwards but he maintained the position strongly despite the 20 odd seconds drive through penalty. Whilst it may not have been the race of his life, I reckon it may prove to be one of his best. He certainly punched metaphorically well above his weight.

Skam85 · 31 May 2005, 09:01 (Ref:1315474)

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Originally Posted by GP Racer

Had to go with Fisi myself.

He took another terrible start, and slowly and methodically drove himself into some good points. Nicely done!

So you are saying a slow and methodical driver was your driver of the day?

BootsOntheSide · 31 May 2005, 09:02 (Ref:1315475)

Coulthard's drive was one of the best we've seen form a second-half-of-the-grid car in a long time, although a couple fo Fisichella's efforts last seasonw ere perhaps equally impressive. He managed to fend off faster cars over the course of the race, and was actually 5th in the fastest lap list, so thre's no way you can dismiss the result as a fluke. My choice was Heidfeld because he managed to run with Raikkonen early on (admittedly with less fuel) and wrung a lot more pace out fo the Williams for his third podium.

Oaksnaf · 31 May 2005, 10:29 (Ref:1315557)

For me it has to be the Big Chin--DC. Not only did he outpace Alonso in the early stages of the Grandprix on a consistent basis as from lap 3-8 his laps were around a tenth quicker than Alonso and even 6 tenths quicker than Nick around the period of laps 15-20.

But the main downpoint of the Red Bull car is their raw speed. All the top teams are getting down into the 1.30's just before they pit, but DC was stuck in the mid 1.31's so to come that close to a podium and loosing 13.6 seconds in that stop-go meant he really should have beaten Rubens.

But the Big Chin drove awesome and thrashed his younger team-mate Liuzzi on basically every lap.

GO DC!!

**Peter Mallett** · 31 May 2005, 10:37 (Ref:1315562)

Welcome to the forum Oaksnaf.

Oaksnaf · 31 May 2005, 10:54 (Ref:1315577)

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Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Welcome to the forum Oaksnaf.

Thanks, after floating around trying to find a decent forum i was excited when this forum blocked hotmail addresses. And the quality is pretty good from what i have read so far. So i had to join.

N I Tram · 31 May 2005, 11:48 (Ref:1315630)

Last time I chose Heidfeld I got lynched. Is it alright if I choose him again this weekend? Apart from a suspect start (and he wouldn't've won even without that) he was flawless all weekend. It's great to see him getting some recognition.

Oaksnaf · 31 May 2005, 11:54 (Ref:1315643)

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Originally Posted by N I Tram

Last time I chose Heidfeld I got lynched. Is it alright if I choose him again this weekend? Apart from a suspect start (and he wouldn't've won even without that) he was flawless all weekend. It's great to see him getting some recognition.

Yes Nick drove a consistent race, was lucky to end up on the podium really 1) Kimi's failure 2)DC's stop-go and 3)First corner incident which messed up a few of the top contendors.

Really Nick drove like he normally does, consistent and mistake free. It was without a doubt the team would be on a 3 stop strategy for the German and maybe likewise for Webber (However claims were that Webber was going to 2 stop).

But Nick did the job and came away with yet another 2nd place. 16 points in the last two races, thats even better than Fernando and its the same amout of points that Michael has scored all year. So that must bring a smile to the Germans face. PLus he is now only 2 points behind 2nd in the WDC championship.

**John Turner** · 31 May 2005, 12:38 (Ref:1315719)

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Originally Posted by N I Tram

Last time I chose Heidfeld I got lynched. Is it alright if I choose him again this weekend?

I think you'll find that you 'got lynched' last time because of some of the remarks that accompanied your choice. Nick, so far, has actually matched Kimi for votes in the Monaco poll, so you were not alone. I also voted for him last time, although not this time, but I totally agree that he deserves recognition and that has certainly started to come to him on 10-tenths.

Menelaos · 31 May 2005, 15:11 (Ref:1315880)

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Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

I haven't welcomed you to our forum, so a big welcome to a Greek King(?) correct me if I'm wrong here.

Anyway whilst I totally agree with your thoughts here, I'd like to know who you voted for. Specifically the NH being second to Kimi thing. He was not affected by the turn one melee and as we know, second for the first stint until he pitted. That was because he was running less fuel than the Macaroon. Hence he was never going to be better than 3rd if the Macaroon won. Saying that (and I assume you are a Nick fan) he did bloody well to be there at the end and he'd be my driver of the day but for DC's performance.

Hey

Thanks for the welcome

Yeah, I used to be a king about two or three thousand years ago :lol:

Anyway, I voted for Heidfeld. My opinion is that no one actually had a GREAT race last Sunday. As I said the best ones were by far Kimi and DC but they both destroyed their races by their own mistakes. I'm a huge fan of Kimi and McLaren and it hurts to say this, though

Anyway, I think you're wrong: Heidfeld WAS affected by the thing in turn one, although not directly. What I mean is, if Webber, JPM and Schumi had stayed up there, he would have obviously created a much longer distance between himself and Alonso. The thing is, when you run qualy2 (or qualy, as it is now) light on fuel it's becuase those with more fuel will be held back. So, when Alonso was lucky enough to see everyone who could have delayed him to fall back, Heidfeld lost his advantage, cause his main rival had no one to delay with.

Not to be misunderstoon, there was nothing wrong with Alonso's victory and all penalties to Trulli and DC were 100% fair, I'm not complaining. Nothing was unfair, and Alonso is a great driver, but he was SO lucky.

f1manoz · 31 May 2005, 15:14 (Ref:1315885)

Completely biased vote for Heidfeld. Drove his socks off, no mistakes, an extra stop, first pole position and another second place. Now ahead of Webber in the WDC standings to boot...

luke · 31 May 2005, 15:55 (Ref:1315927)

Raikkonen, gutted he retired on the last lap, else he would be a lot closer in the standings.

luke · 31 May 2005, 15:56 (Ref:1315928)

^^^^ That's two years Kimi should have won it now.

Pitstop · 31 May 2005, 16:04 (Ref:1315940)

I went for Nick too, he did drive his socks off.

Welcome Menelaos, good post.

View Poll Results: Who is the driver of the race for the European GP?
Alonso	5	5.15%
Heidfeld	18	18.56%
Barrichello	12	12.37%
Coulthard	45	46.39%
M Schumacher	4	4.12%
Fisichella	3	3.09%
Montoya	1	1.03%
Trulli	0	0%
Raikkonen	8	8.25%
Masa	0	0%
Monteiro	1	1.03%
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