If YOU were the President of CAMS... - Page 2

PVDA · 21 Mar 2007, 08:30 (Ref:1872888)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

The blokes @ Dandenong Road have been barred from posting here apparently...

But they do read what's written on here.

I've had a few taps on the shoulder from various Dandy Rd people commenting on things I've posted or threads I've started over the last few years.

trogladyte · 21 Mar 2007, 10:50 (Ref:1872976)

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Originally Posted by 1200Datto27

They do have a commercial spirit to them, it's know as ripping as much out of the grassroots level of motorsport, with the minimum return to the people that support them, whilst swanning about the place.

They have a "Fines Fund" totalling over $100,000 from fines at race meetings... Where does that all go to?

Uncle Cranker · 21 Mar 2007, 10:57 (Ref:1872984)

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Originally Posted by PVDA

But they do read what's written on here.

I've had a few taps on the shoulder from various Dandy Rd people commenting on things I've posted or threads I've started over the last few years.

And they continue to suggest that you tell who I am.....

Glad to count you as a friend PVDA, until you give me up.........

fomoco · 21 Mar 2007, 11:36 (Ref:1873011)

I spoke to a senior CAMS man, at Indy a couple of years ago. From memory the discusion was about categorys in Aust Motor Sport.

When we have International events should we show case our FF, F3, F Holden or put on historics , HQ's, tin tops( V8's-Porsche) little Aussies?
( Yes for entertaiment -but who do you invite for the weekend)

We events are on at regional tracks, do we send the top categories or local clubs to foster the development of drivers, and let those love racing race?

Do we have to many categories in Aust ?

At state level, should we have numerous types of racing?
Is cost a factor as to why we have so many types? ( this has already been raised)

If CAMS was to rule supreme, how would all the Clubs accept it.

I agree with other posts, Cams must hustle along to the 21st Century and do something sooner rather than later.

1200Datto27 · 21 Mar 2007, 13:51 (Ref:1873104)

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Originally Posted by PVDA

But they do read what's written on here.

I've had a few taps on the shoulder from various Dandy Rd people commenting on things I've posted or threads I've started over the last few years.

Your not the only one to have been asked to explain postings on here by the ivory tower citizens.

MPA · 22 Mar 2007, 11:04 (Ref:1873690)

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Originally Posted by trogladyte

They have a "Fines Fund" totalling over $100,000 from fines at race meetings... Where does that all go to?

Ummmmmmm, Back to the Artists formally known as AVESCO with aussie bernie taking his 25% share?

Perhaps someone can shed some light on this....Do all the fines from a V8 meeting go back to AVESCO including the fines from the young men in FF racing with daddy's cheque book or just the V8 Supercar fines?

1200Datto27 · 22 Mar 2007, 13:12 (Ref:1873748)

I thought of another thing today, a prohibition on members of PIARC being employed.

BFC · 22 Mar 2007, 13:30 (Ref:1873758)

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Originally Posted by MPA

Ummmmmmm, Back to the Artists formally known as AVESCO with aussie bernie taking his 25% share?

Perhaps someone can shed some light on this....Do all the fines from a V8 meeting go back to AVESCO including the fines from the young men in FF racing with daddy's cheque book or just the V8 Supercar fines?

could be from all race meetings clubbies etc????

BFC · 22 Mar 2007, 13:32 (Ref:1873760)

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Originally Posted by 1200Datto27

I thought of another thing today, a prohibition on members of PIARC being employed.

What? and have no one working in the CAMS orrifice!!!!!

Chronicle · 23 Mar 2007, 08:45 (Ref:1874305)

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Originally Posted by MPA

Ummmmmmm, Back to the Artists formally known as AVESCO with aussie bernie taking his 25% share?

Perhaps someone can shed some light on this....Do all the fines from a V8 meeting go back to AVESCO including the fines from the young men in FF racing with daddy's cheque book or just the V8 Supercar fines?

Yes, I understand that CAMS are the debt producers and Debt Collectors for VESA.

Harves · 23 Mar 2007, 09:16 (Ref:1874322)

ok great another cams bashing thread.

BFC · 23 Mar 2007, 09:57 (Ref:1874361)

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Originally Posted by Harves

ok great another cams bashing thread.

and? you have a point sometimes the truth hurts

MPA · 23 Mar 2007, 10:09 (Ref:1874367)

Still waiting for someone to confirm or deny that all the penalty revenue from a V8 meeting is returned to the artists formally known as AVESCO for the promotion and or the betterment of the V8 Supercar category.

pete55 · 23 Mar 2007, 11:32 (Ref:1874413)

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Originally Posted by MPA

Still waiting for someone to confirm or deny that all the penalty revenue from a V8 meeting is returned to the artists formally known as AVESCO for the promotion and or the betterment of the V8 Supercar category.

As far as i know that is the case.

Harves · 23 Mar 2007, 22:37 (Ref:1874817)

BFC what's the topic?????

anyone can sit on their hobby horse and bag CAMS but what would you do ????

athome · 26 Mar 2007, 07:33 (Ref:1876460)

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Originally Posted by Peddler

If you were Colin Osborne, (President of CAMS) what would you change about Australian motorsport and the way that it is run?

As I remember, it was Colin Osborne who published "CAMS Beyond 2000" back in 1998 or 1999. The vision on open wheelers was the elimination of Formula 3 and Formula Vee with resources being pushed into Formula Holden ( as it was then) and Formula Ford. Who needs this sort of vision?

Vees have worked out their own destiny with larger fields and 1600 engines. Formula 3 had a 30 car field at the AGP!

PVDA · 26 Mar 2007, 07:38 (Ref:1876466)

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Originally Posted by athome

Formula 3 had a 30 car field at the AGP!

and so did the F4000/FHoldens before them.

They always come out of the woodwork for the AGP and then disappear into the ether once a normal round appears on the horizon.

Adam Ronke · 26 Mar 2007, 07:38 (Ref:1876468)

Nobody would bag CAMS if they looked after ALL of their members.

Its like an iceberg, V8 Supercars is the top of it, Club level motorsport holds our sport together, I am more interested in building the clubs at sprint meeting level, the rest will look after itself.

Silver 3 · 26 Mar 2007, 09:09 (Ref:1876526)

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Originally Posted by Adam Ronke

Nobody would bag CAMS if they looked after ALL of their members.

Its like an iceberg, V8 Supercars is the top of it, Club level motorsport holds our sport together, I am more interested in building the clubs at sprint meeting level, the rest will look after itself.

The problem is that Cams do not reflect the views of members or care. They believe they are-- that is the problem. Secondly they believe they are there to maximise revenue. The contribution of members is of no interest . My source is first hand -- this came from the paid hierachy-- so a lot of that is probably news to many who work there. It is not the rank and file performing administrative roles that deserve the criticism-- it is from the President,Board and paid executive . That is the root of the problem.

Trevor · 26 Mar 2007, 21:00 (Ref:1877074)

Goodness me, I read their latest proganda magazine last night, there is always enlightening information contained within.

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