Are paying drivers paying too much? (Merged x1) - Page 2

rockdog · 15 Jun 2007, 12:29 (Ref:1937644)

well, i hope i get offered a drive one day rather than if you pay us this much you can drive.

Driver TBA · 15 Jun 2007, 13:00 (Ref:1937660)

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Originally Posted by williamsf1

I was told recently that to do the fujitsu series in a level 1 spec car you will need 1 million to do 1 year....you will not win without a level 1 car, if anyone says you can, they are deluding themselves!

So a Matthew White Racing built BA Falcon at $350,000 for the season is an absolute bargain, considering Marcus Marshall put it on the podium at Winton.

davester · 15 Jun 2007, 15:09 (Ref:1937744)

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Originally Posted by Driver TBA

So a Matthew White Racing built BA Falcon at $350,000 for the season is an absolute bargain, considering Marcus Marshall put it on the podium at Winton.

I think that price may include carrying their major SmartSkip signage.

Mr Intolerant · 16 Jun 2007, 03:48 (Ref:1938116)

It also doesn't account for the fact that you have to deal with Matthew White. Not having to do that is worth another $100K or so.

**GTRMagic** · 16 Jun 2007, 06:20 (Ref:1938148)

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Originally Posted by Driver TBA

So a Matthew White Racing built BA Falcon at $350,000 for the season is an absolute bargain, considering Marcus Marshall put it on the podium at Winton.

Is that the price to the regular punters, or inclusive of the benefit of the contra enduro drives at NLR?

v8smoker · 16 Jun 2007, 13:27 (Ref:1938369)

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Originally Posted by Driver TBA

So a Matthew White Racing built BA Falcon at $350,000 for the season is an absolute bargain, considering Marcus Marshall put it on the podium at Winton.

So making the podium once at a weekend of changable weather with a large part going down to luck makes MWracing a top Dev series team

I'm sure there is teams charging less but you would be rather keen just looking at the car let alone thinking about getting in an driving it.

Driver TBA · 16 Jun 2007, 14:51 (Ref:1938496)

Sorry, Marcus drove at Wakefield Park not Winton.
My point was Razor quoted $50,000 for a MWR drive ($350,000 for the season) and WilliamsF1 quoted 1 million for a level 1 drive. So the thinking was, if your a half decent driver you could save yourself $650,000 and still get podiums.

motor.mouth · 17 Jun 2007, 00:18 (Ref:1939220)

A better question is that with the high costs related to the sport who will pay the bills if it isn't the driver and/ or his sponsor?

I recall being told by a guy who was running mid field in the development series (who owned his own car/ truck etc) that is was costing him better than 27 thou a round.

**GTRMagic** · 17 Jun 2007, 00:43 (Ref:1939237)

There is a big difference between grabbing a bunch of mates, a car, and a truck and going racing than paying a pro or semi-pro outfit to keep the show on the road.

As ever, a serious due diligence is required.... but it still usually boils down to the question of how fast you can afford to go?

williamsf1 · 17 Jun 2007, 07:48 (Ref:1939510)

before I am miss quoted, it was 1 million for a "level 1 spec" car capable of winning 2008. i.e. a current BF handmedown with all the fruit.

**GTRMagic** · 17 Jun 2007, 08:18 (Ref:1939541)

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Originally Posted by williamsf1

before I am miss quoted, it was 1 million for a "level 1 spec" car capable of winning 2008. i.e. a current BF handmedown with all the fruit.

Thats how I interpreted what you wrote

Its the fruit that generates the speed.... when you deal with some places without access to the fruit, or indeed knowing what the fruit looks like, then you can expect an accompanying variation in speed...

williamsf1 · 17 Jun 2007, 10:50 (Ref:1939685)

off topic where you wearing a BOC hat walking past the GTP cars monday GTR?

00 XR8 · 17 Jun 2007, 10:56 (Ref:1939701)

Pffffffft...... all that money, just to drive heavy, under-tyred, understeering behemoths, with little aero or braking performance to speak of?

$20K per meeting in the Stevens F430 sounds more fun to me.....

**GTRMagic** · 17 Jun 2007, 11:36 (Ref:1939768)

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Originally Posted by williamsf1

off topic where you wearing a BOC hat walking past the GTP cars monday GTR?

That could well have been me... hiding from both the rain and the sun at different times during the day

davester · 17 Jun 2007, 13:22 (Ref:1939906)

Dont forget to add a crash contingency...some of those cars out there, particularly the 2006 cars were bought for as much as $500K (adds a dash of reality doesn't it).

So kiddies, with the risk of a very sudden stop that hanging over your head, make sure you ask mum and dad if it's ok to risk the house this weekend.

Raising your round fee of $30K, $50K, even $75K might not be the biggest of your problems.

GtiMagic · 18 Jun 2007, 00:33 (Ref:1940379)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Is that the price to the regular punters, or inclusive of the benefit of the contra enduro drives at NLR?

Ummm, Mr GTR, i'd be sure it was in fact NLR before you start calling it so.

My powder room, which has the good stuff, is suggesting that perhaps the NLR brand may be attcahed to a team far further north than the one you all may think...and in blue cars not red.

And I don't think this alleged new acquisition will have any impact on the sign and sealed enduro combinations at this northern based oufit as announced some months ago.

Guess we will find out if M.White was signed at PWR on merit or money since I doubt M.Marshall will himself be there come enduro time.

Time for another few different thread me thinks...
1. Is the No Limit takeover of PWR actually happening?
2. Is there a Qld Ford team in financial strife that is next on Mr.Marshall's radar?
3. Who is actually driving at PWR come endurance time?
4. Will Paul Weel be back in his own saddle?

oh, almost forgot...if any of this actually happened of course

cavvy · 23 Jun 2007, 00:05 (Ref:1944674)

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Originally Posted by GtiMagic

Ummm, Mr GTR, i'd be sure it was in fact NLR before you start calling it so.

My powder room, which has the good stuff, is suggesting that perhaps the NLR brand may be attcahed to a team far further north than the one you all may think...and in blue cars not red.

And I don't think this alleged new acquisition will have any impact on the sign and sealed enduro combinations at this northern based oufit as announced some months ago.

Guess we will find out if M.White was signed at PWR on merit or money since I doubt M.Marshall will himself be there come enduro time.

Time for another few different thread me thinks...
1. Is the No Limit takeover of PWR actually happening?
2. Is there a Qld Ford team in financial strife that is next on Mr.Marshall's radar?
3. Who is actually driving at PWR come endurance time?
4. Will Paul Weel be back in his own saddle?

oh, almost forgot...if any of this actually happened of course

Does your powder puff run to what issues caused the thumbs down by the No Limits due diligence team?

**GTRMagic** · 23 Jun 2007, 01:24 (Ref:1944706)

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Originally Posted by cavvy

Does your powder puff run to what issues caused the thumbs down by the No Limits due diligence team?

"Paperwork" wasnt it, according to the fishwrappers

Depends on the kind of "paperwork" that was meant I suppose

cavvy · 23 Jun 2007, 09:05 (Ref:1944812)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

"Paperwork" wasnt it, according to the fishwrappers

Depends on the kind of "paperwork" that was meant I suppose

Gti is the powder puff - it is his/her cred in question !!

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