Home  
Site Partners: SpotterGuides Veloce Books  
Related Sites: Your Link Here  

Go Back   TenTenths Motorsport Forum > Saloon & Sportscar Racing > Sportscar & GT Racing

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 15 Jun 2010, 23:13 (Ref:2712887)   #476
Tim the Grey
Veteran
 
Tim the Grey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Wales
Across the M40 from Gaydon...
Posts: 3,834
Tim the Grey has a real shot at the championship!Tim the Grey has a real shot at the championship!Tim the Grey has a real shot at the championship!Tim the Grey has a real shot at the championship!Tim the Grey has a real shot at the championship!
I think Jag will decide VERY soon whether to fish or cut bait. That cannot be good publicity. Regardless of who did what, or why, or not. Better to blow up in 2nd place after 23 hours. Then you are a gallant loser. That was a debacle.

Sadly.

Here's hoping they back it, and make it work, huh?
Tim the Grey is offline  
__________________
Tim Yorath
Ecurie Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
Fan of "the sacred monster Christophe Bouchut"...
Quote
Old 16 Jun 2010, 01:20 (Ref:2712916)   #477
JagtechOhio
Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
United States
Powell, Ohio USA
Posts: 2,311
JagtechOhio should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridJagtechOhio should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
merlot, I certainly couldn't give you an answer, not knowing what sort of crank trigger they are using.

The crank triggers Jag has used on road cars are simple, and there are never any voltage spikes in the ignition system which create problems. They generate an AC voltage signal dependant on engine speed.

The harness is shielded electrically, no drama.
JagtechOhio is offline  
Quote
Old 16 Jun 2010, 02:55 (Ref:2712940)   #478
aeroehl
Racer
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
United States
Posts: 241
aeroehl should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
They need to turn the whole program over to Riley. They have the resources and connections to make the car competitive and sell them to customers. RSR has been the disappointment that we all hoped they would not be.
aeroehl is offline  
Quote
Old 16 Jun 2010, 11:52 (Ref:2713119)   #479
jaguarista
Racer
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Italy
Bari
Posts: 141
jaguarista should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
I think that with a good investment in test on track and support of Riley Techonlogies the car can be competitive. The car it's only 6 months old, don't forget.

It's sure that Jaguar will not accept others negative results.
jaguarista is offline  
__________________
GO JAGUAR GO
Quote
Old 19 Jun 2010, 22:36 (Ref:2714873)   #480
Mike_Wooshy
Veteran
 
Mike_Wooshy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
England
Birmingham
Posts: 1,677
Mike_Wooshy should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridMike_Wooshy should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Intresting to see on the Jaguar career's website that they are searching for a Motorsport program manager..... hopefully whoever gets the job will move program either "in house" or push PG to produce a decent car.......
Mike_Wooshy is offline  
__________________
The race track and the human body, both born of the earth, drive to be one with the earth, and through the earth one with the car,
drive to the undiminished dream, single moments of pleasure, an eternity of memories.
Quote
Old 19 Jun 2010, 22:40 (Ref:2714877)   #481
The Badger
Veteran
 
The Badger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location:
Innsbruck , Austria
Posts: 13,763
The Badger has a real shot at the podium!The Badger has a real shot at the podium!The Badger has a real shot at the podium!The Badger has a real shot at the podium!
I saw this beast in France , absolutly lovely sounding animal , shame its a crok of **** though .
The Badger is offline  
Quote
Old 20 Jun 2010, 06:42 (Ref:2714940)   #482
Bentley03
Race Official
Veteran
 
Bentley03's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
United Kingdom
Posts: 6,102
Bentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
The car performed as predicted (surprise surprise).

This effort (or lack of) is a joke and a complete disgrace to the Jaguar name.
Bentley03 is offline  
Quote
Old 20 Jun 2010, 12:19 (Ref:2715041)   #483
Aysedasi
Team Crouton
20KPINAL
 
Aysedasi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
England
Lymington, New Forest, England
Posts: 39,944
Aysedasi is the undisputed Champion of the World!Aysedasi is the undisputed Champion of the World!Aysedasi is the undisputed Champion of the World!Aysedasi is the undisputed Champion of the World!Aysedasi is the undisputed Champion of the World!Aysedasi is the undisputed Champion of the World!Aysedasi is the undisputed Champion of the World!Aysedasi is the undisputed Champion of the World!Aysedasi is the undisputed Champion of the World!Aysedasi is the undisputed Champion of the World!Aysedasi is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Yep, the Jaguar sure turned out to be 2010's Lamborghini.........

Does every Le Mans race now need a complete no-hoper?
Aysedasi is offline  
__________________
280 days......
Quote
Old 20 Jun 2010, 12:25 (Ref:2715042)   #484
Victor_RO
Veteran
 
Victor_RO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Romania
Cluj-Napoca, Romania
Posts: 6,270
Victor_RO is going for a new world record!Victor_RO is going for a new world record!Victor_RO is going for a new world record!Victor_RO is going for a new world record!Victor_RO is going for a new world record!Victor_RO is going for a new world record!Victor_RO is going for a new world record!Victor_RO is going for a new world record!
Well we don't want too much of that boring ol' reliability... it's much more fun when cars start blowing up or shunting themselves off the black stuff from the first hour.
Victor_RO is offline  
__________________
When in doubt? C4.
Quote
Old 21 Jun 2010, 15:47 (Ref:2715782)   #485
JHamilton
Veteran
 
JHamilton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
United States
Atlanta, GA
Posts: 4,617
JHamilton is the undisputed Champion of the World!JHamilton is the undisputed Champion of the World!JHamilton is the undisputed Champion of the World!JHamilton is the undisputed Champion of the World!JHamilton is the undisputed Champion of the World!JHamilton is the undisputed Champion of the World!JHamilton is the undisputed Champion of the World!JHamilton is the undisputed Champion of the World!JHamilton is the undisputed Champion of the World!JHamilton is the undisputed Champion of the World!JHamilton is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aysedasi View Post
Yep, the Jaguar sure turned out to be 2010's Lamborghini.........

Does every Le Mans race now need a complete no-hoper?
Actually, I would give that honor to Autocon. Sorry about that guys.
JHamilton is offline  
Quote
Old 21 Jun 2010, 16:32 (Ref:2715809)   #486
jaguarista
Racer
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Italy
Bari
Posts: 141
jaguarista should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Are planned test ???!
jaguarista is offline  
__________________
GO JAGUAR GO
Quote
Old 21 Jun 2010, 16:34 (Ref:2715813)   #487
merlot brougham
Racer
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
United States
Chapel Hill
Posts: 170
merlot brougham should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridmerlot brougham should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Victor_RO View Post
Well we don't want too much of that boring ol' reliability...
Some would argue that it was as reliable as Jags usually are
merlot brougham is offline  
__________________
"Dude, Scott Sharp wrecked again." Uttered by my buddy at various races the past couple years.
Quote
Old 21 Jun 2010, 20:26 (Ref:2715986)   #488
JAG
Veteran
 
JAG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
England
Posts: 10,500
JAG should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridJAG should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridJAG should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Would it be unrealisitc to suggest RSR could run a Jaguar engined P2 with the GT2 program going elsewhere?
JAG is offline  
Quote
Old 21 Jun 2010, 22:34 (Ref:2716075)   #489
skycafe
Race Official
Veteran
 
skycafe's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
United States
Water on three sides
Posts: 4,154
skycafe is going for a new lap record!skycafe is going for a new lap record!skycafe is going for a new lap record!skycafe is going for a new lap record!skycafe is going for a new lap record!skycafe is going for a new lap record!
A P2 bought in chassis may work for RSR, but right now they look like they should give the engine and everything else over to someone else.
skycafe is offline  
__________________
You live and learn. At any rate, you live.
Douglas Adams
Quote
Old 22 Jun 2010, 08:21 (Ref:2716194)   #490
Mike_Wooshy
Veteran
 
Mike_Wooshy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
England
Birmingham
Posts: 1,677
Mike_Wooshy should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridMike_Wooshy should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
totally agree with that statement my friend....
Mike_Wooshy is offline  
__________________
The race track and the human body, both born of the earth, drive to be one with the earth, and through the earth one with the car,
drive to the undiminished dream, single moments of pleasure, an eternity of memories.
Quote
Old 22 Jun 2010, 17:09 (Ref:2716428)   #491
JHamilton
Veteran
 
JHamilton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
United States
Atlanta, GA
Posts: 4,617
JHamilton is the undisputed Champion of the World!JHamilton is the undisputed Champion of the World!JHamilton is the undisputed Champion of the World!JHamilton is the undisputed Champion of the World!JHamilton is the undisputed Champion of the World!JHamilton is the undisputed Champion of the World!JHamilton is the undisputed Champion of the World!JHamilton is the undisputed Champion of the World!JHamilton is the undisputed Champion of the World!JHamilton is the undisputed Champion of the World!JHamilton is the undisputed Champion of the World!
I agree too.

I've said this before, but I think the issue with the engine, whether it's cooling or engine management, have been the major issue all along. I don't think they even know how good or bad the chassis is. I don't think plunking the RSR engine in an LMP2 will do anyone any favors. Let's not forget the tires either....
JHamilton is offline  
Quote
Old 23 Jun 2010, 13:08 (Ref:2716844)   #492
merlot brougham
Racer
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
United States
Chapel Hill
Posts: 170
merlot brougham should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridmerlot brougham should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by JHamilton View Post
Let's not forget the tires either....
That's an outstanding point. Because of the lack of pace and lack of pushing the tires they could get the engine and chassis totally sorted and then have to spend another year developing the Yokohamas.
merlot brougham is offline  
__________________
"Dude, Scott Sharp wrecked again." Uttered by my buddy at various races the past couple years.
Quote
Old 24 Jun 2010, 09:26 (Ref:2717295)   #493
Tim the Grey
Veteran
 
Tim the Grey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Wales
Across the M40 from Gaydon...
Posts: 3,834
Tim the Grey has a real shot at the championship!Tim the Grey has a real shot at the championship!Tim the Grey has a real shot at the championship!Tim the Grey has a real shot at the championship!Tim the Grey has a real shot at the championship!
I reckon a P2 effort with a Jag engine is not an impossibility...
Maybe even BOTH sides of the pond.
Tim the Grey is offline  
__________________
Tim Yorath
Ecurie Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
Fan of "the sacred monster Christophe Bouchut"...
Quote
Old 24 Jun 2010, 09:27 (Ref:2717296)   #494
Tim the Grey
Veteran
 
Tim the Grey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Wales
Across the M40 from Gaydon...
Posts: 3,834
Tim the Grey has a real shot at the championship!Tim the Grey has a real shot at the championship!Tim the Grey has a real shot at the championship!Tim the Grey has a real shot at the championship!Tim the Grey has a real shot at the championship!
Quote:
Originally Posted by merlot brougham View Post
Some would argue that it was as reliable as Jags usually are

And THAT one line indicates why Jaguar should bring it in house, and throw engineers at it, and make it work. Too much prestige at stake, right now...
Tim the Grey is offline  
__________________
Tim Yorath
Ecurie Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
Fan of "the sacred monster Christophe Bouchut"...
Quote
Old 24 Jun 2010, 10:43 (Ref:2717331)   #495
Bentley03
Race Official
Veteran
 
Bentley03's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
United Kingdom
Posts: 6,102
Bentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim the Grey View Post
I reckon a P2 effort with a Jag engine is not an impossibility...
Maybe even BOTH sides of the pond.
I hope not, given the price cap the ACO have announced for future LMP2's.

Jaguar need to sever ties with RSR immediately and start over. I can think of umpteen suitable technical partners for either a GT or LMP programme. They just need to speak to the right people!
Bentley03 is offline  
Quote
Old 24 Jun 2010, 13:40 (Ref:2717415)   #496
Tim the Grey
Veteran
 
Tim the Grey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Wales
Across the M40 from Gaydon...
Posts: 3,834
Tim the Grey has a real shot at the championship!Tim the Grey has a real shot at the championship!Tim the Grey has a real shot at the championship!Tim the Grey has a real shot at the championship!Tim the Grey has a real shot at the championship!
That underlined bit? I believe they already may have...
But I never said anything.
And you never heard it, OK?

I still think they should examine the RSR effort, in detail, and determine if it CAN be salvaged. Then either fish, or cut bait and start over again. But they really DARE not leave it 'as is'...
Tim the Grey is offline  
__________________
Tim Yorath
Ecurie Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
Fan of "the sacred monster Christophe Bouchut"...
Quote
Old 24 Jun 2010, 23:09 (Ref:2717620)   #497
Bentley03
Race Official
Veteran
 
Bentley03's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
United Kingdom
Posts: 6,102
Bentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBentley03 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim the Grey View Post
That underlined bit? I believe they already may have...
But I never said anything.
And you never heard it, OK?

I still think they should examine the RSR effort, in detail, and determine if it CAN be salvaged. Then either fish, or cut bait and start over again. But they really DARE not leave it 'as is'...
What you didn't say regarding the underlined bit........I know........but obviously, I didn't know that!

Unfortunately, I see nothing in the RSR effort worth salvaging. I'm not even convinced it's worth examining it in detail.
Bentley03 is offline  
Quote
Old 25 Jun 2010, 10:24 (Ref:2717749)   #498
jaguarista
Racer
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Italy
Bari
Posts: 141
jaguarista should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
This is Your opinion. Indeed, the Jaguar will stand restructuring the team JaguarRSR, new manager, new strategy. The support of Jaguar is now direct and soon you will see the results.
jaguarista is offline  
__________________
GO JAGUAR GO
Quote
Old 25 Jun 2010, 12:38 (Ref:2717813)   #499
Tim the Grey
Veteran
 
Tim the Grey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Wales
Across the M40 from Gaydon...
Posts: 3,834
Tim the Grey has a real shot at the championship!Tim the Grey has a real shot at the championship!Tim the Grey has a real shot at the championship!Tim the Grey has a real shot at the championship!Tim the Grey has a real shot at the championship!
That is pretty much what I'd heard... So I hope they DO throw the right resource in the right places, and make it work right, this time...
Tim the Grey is offline  
__________________
Tim Yorath
Ecurie Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
Fan of "the sacred monster Christophe Bouchut"...
Quote
Old 25 Jun 2010, 15:26 (Ref:2717874)   #500
JAG
Veteran
 
JAG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
England
Posts: 10,500
JAG should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridJAG should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridJAG should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Is Geoff Kingston from the Sumo Power Nissan GT-R team going to Jaguar?
JAG is offline  
Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
LMS GT2 vs FIA GT2 who is stronger ? Subaru_WRX_STi Sportscar & GT Racing 40 19 Oct 2008 16:31
Ferrari F2008 launch tomorrow. Launch season begins! Knowlesy Formula One 110 7 Feb 2008 14:13
Jaguar launch Glen Formula One 18 23 Jan 2003 11:34
Jaguar e-launch Asp Formula One 13 21 Jan 2003 20:48


All times are GMT. The time now is 20:27.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Original Website Copyright © 1998-2003 Craig Antil. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2004-2021 Royalridge Computing. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2021-2022 Grant MacDonald. All Rights Reserved.