2019 TCR UK rumours and discussion

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by redshoes

Don't worry. TCR Guru has put out a social media post calling for more teams and drivers to enter the Brands Hatch round, so the series is saved.

Excellent. I imagine he's also going to be delivering world peace and Brexit to. Both on the weekend that was the Spa round. 😁

[S griffin]

Maybe he could add the Renault Clio Cup to the series. After all, that too is in single figures....

[btccbloke]

Originally Posted by S griffin

Maybe he could add the Renault Clio Cup to the series. After all, that too is in single figures....

Considering the series was initially only open to NGTC cars which ran GPRM kit and he was then about to allow a Subaru which to my knowledge only ever ran RML parts to compete, I think the entry criteria is just being made up as he goes along if it puts more cars out there.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by btccbloke

Considering the series was initially only open to NGTC cars which ran GPRM kit and he was then about to allow a Subaru which to my knowledge only ever ran RML parts to compete, I think the entry criteria is just being made up as he goes along if it puts more cars out there.

Where was it stated that it was only open to NGTC/GPRM cars?
I know that those cars were the main target, but as far as I can tell, it has always been open to other cars.

Lines: 'Now that there’s a lot of S2000, BTC-T, TCR and NGCT cars available which can all enter the Touring Car Trophy'

maximumgroup.net:
'Eligible cars:

TCR to any specification
World Touring Cars
NGTC Touring Cars
S2000 Touring Cars
Seat Super Copa mk2'

[btccbloke]

hmm now you mention it.... that was certainly our impressions of the initial idea as the other thread testifies



https://tentenths.com/forum/showpost...4&postcount=50


https://tentenths.com/forum/showpost...1&postcount=59


I know this is only people on here, but the notion must have been posited from somewhere :-/

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by btccbloke

hmm now you mention it.... that was certainly our impressions of the initial idea as the other thread testifies

I know this is only people on here, but the notion must have been posited from somewhere :-/

An early press release did read:
'Lines aims to include older-specification BTCC cars such as the NGTC models fitted with the original GPRM components. There will also be a division for TCR cars, and one for the SEAT Supercopa Mk2 cars.'
But doesn't specifically limit the entry to GPRM only...

[btccbloke]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

An early press release did read:
'Lines aims to include older-specification BTCC cars such as the NGTC models fitted with the original GPRM components. There will also be a division for TCR cars, and one for the SEAT Supercopa Mk2 cars.'
But doesn't specifically limit the entry to GPRM only...

Im going to guess it comes from the wording of that, although im not sure why you would specifically reference a component manufacturer if it was not relevant.
It may not say "limited to, but "older-specification BTCC cars such as the NGTC models fitted with the original GPRM components" seems quite clear to me and is the exact opposite of "newer specification BTCC cars with RML parts" or just "NGTC cars".

[Alfisti]

Any sort of vehicle with wheels basically. Roller skates too if you ask nicely ��

[S griffin]

How about a horse and cart? Plenty of BHP there

[btccbloke]

im not sure if they gave up on success ballast after round 1 or even why this deserves its own section on the site: https://www.maximummotorsport.uk/success-ballast

[S griffin]

The series was reported in today’s Autosport so that’s something

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by S griffin

The series was reported in today’s Autosport so that’s something

19 cars racing in Australia. AUSTRALIA ! The home of the V8! What’s the Uk excuse?

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

19 cars racing in Australia. AUSTRALIA ! The home of the V8! What’s the Uk excuse?

Excuse? Some convicts nicked our race cars.... and oh look they're in Australia.

Sorry good folks of Oz!


Given their is night and day in terms of performance and cost between Supercars and TCR I can imagine it could find a market. But here it's just a half baked broadly similar BTCC-a-like.

[Umai Naa]

Easy to get 19 cars, when the series promotor owns most of them, and the drivers are on the payroll.

[S griffin]

I think the Australians are better at promoting too

[W2Motorsport]

There is no reason why a TCR series can't work in the UK. The reason why this particular iteration isn't working starts at the top I think. I think it needs to come in at a substantially lower price point than BTCC to be successful and that is where the problem came in last season, and rather than do what they could to lower costs they made themselves a sub-class within another series which is even less notable than TCR UK was last season. The TCR cars themselves are very much less expensive than BTCC (several available in the 60k eur range on racecarsdirect for instance) and hired drives are significantly cheaper elsewhere as well. I'm not sure how or why it fell apart this off season but the field at the end of last season wasn't great, but it was a solid foundation.