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It's a possibilty because Jag wants results. In any case Jag is preparing the official and direct return into motorsport, this is no question.
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For the record, I have no axe to grind with either RSR or Jaguar. I'm a HUGE fan of the marque. My walls are adorned with 'Jaguar at Le Mans' artwork only (at least, in terms of artwork with motorsport as the subject matter). If Jaguar are returning to endurance racing, I want to see it done properly, not some half hearted 'Heath Robinson' effort such as we've seen so far. I want to see fire in bellies and a real passion for the marque, from whoever takes this forward. I want to see fear of failure, the likes of which we witnessed with Audi and Peugeot at Le Mans this year. It should be a privilege for those given the responsibility of taking this project forward and the job must be carried out with pride. I want this new chapter to add to Jaguar's rich heritage in endurance racing, not undermine it. Jaguar, please, do it properly, or not at all!
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Jaguar must realise a serious factory Le Mans effort would generate huge publicity whether in the prototype or GT classes. With a new line-up of road cars and the F-Type on the horizon now is the time to step up thier motorsport activities. http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/au...ype_is_go.html Last edited by JAG; 26 Jun 2010 at 15:53. |
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The beautiful Jags in the Group C race nearly lasted more than the RSR Jag lasted. Beautiful sounding cars. Shame they handed it to a guy like Gentilozzi.
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Correction: a couple of them did last longer than the RSR Jag. One exception was backed into the wall, the other parked with a blown tire.
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RSR and Jaguar should withdraw at least for now, and back to testing, the XKR is too slow and completly unreliable
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Let them get the engine sorted and then it shouldnt be too bad
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Fast competitive Jags for a series he owned. When the Panoz was quicker, it went away...
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Compare that to his godawful Champ Car and Grand Am "efforts" (Attempts? Efforts seems too generous) and I'd say his RSR program seems pretty much in line. |
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is the Jag' program a failure ?
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As others have already mentioned, Gentilozzi is by no means cash-strapped, and with supposed factory funding the project should be much further developed given the circumstances. I'm not disagreeing with you btw. Just highlighting other factors (which may have already been mentioned). It's difficult to gauge whether or not Jaguar has been overly tight with the coin purse when nobody is aware of the level of factory support supplied thus far. |
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Call me a complete sceptic....
Or the thoughts of someone who is a complete lunatic. I see the situation like this;- RSR makes an announcement they intend to build a GT2 XKR as a privater. Nothing wrong with that been done before (see Doran GT and the Viper both in GT2 in ALMS). Lucky for RSR, Jaguar has new owners which decides "right Jaguar do well at Le mans historically its worked for Audi to Rejuvinate there brand image this past decade". They hear of this silent guy who has been tuning Jags, and racing them to some extent in the good ole US of A. Who also put out previous said statement of intent to field an XKR GT2. Think hell lets send him an XFR to go for a speed record at Bonneville to see how he is. Said man achieves substantial brand light. Jaguar then begin to think, yer lets give him ago. Without checking previous history of where he raced the Jags (his own series) and what they where before (tube framed chassis etc etc). Fast forward a 2 hours into Le mans 24 race 2010 Jaguar execs are thinking what the hell are we doing here with this guy. A few days ago as I said in post 480 Jaguar have recently picked up a guy (Geoff Kingston maybe ?) to co-ordinate there motorsport program better, and lets hope bringing double figure victories at Le mans for Coventry based mark. Lets hope he cuts his ties and do what most of us sceptics have been saying for along time but then thats just me might be looking at a half empty pint rather than half full one! |
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