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They did. I think part of the problem wasn't the raw speed of the car, but rather having to setup the car in a way that made it difficult for the Am drivers to feel safe driving it.
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29 Jul 2017, 13:48 (Ref:3755450) | #5377 | |
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Pretty rich. Maybe I can try telling my wife I need an Audi R8 because I am not a good enough driver, see how that works.
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The problem with making it dangerous for an Am is they won't want to drive it. If they don't want to drive it, the team aren't going to get money for it, and won't be able to continue racing. The whole reason GT3s are meant to be easy to drive is so they can be run by Ams safely. If you take that comfort away, you'll get more accidents, less Ams and less cars. |
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29 Jul 2017, 18:00 (Ref:3755582) | #5381 | ||
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And that seems to be a recurrent theme recently in both IMSA and PWC. Am drivers not being able to get the best of out a particular car because in order to do so they have to either drive above their ability or drive a car that doesn't suit them.
I've heard that the McLaren MP4-12 and the derived 650 GT3 isn't very am friendly, not is the Porsche 911 when certain things are done to it. |
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29 Jul 2017, 20:51 (Ref:3755658) | #5382 | |
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Wonder if the tires are part of the problem as well?
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Here is the new VFR Liger
https://twitter.com/scunleashed/stat...47849791127553 Also it appears that Risi may be switching to GTD Last edited by Dyson Mazda; 30 Jul 2017 at 22:50. |
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For now they only have 2 Ferrari GT3 in the entry list of the next Crevetic 24 hours of COTA |
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31 Jul 2017, 16:37 (Ref:3756453) | #5388 | ||
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You guys do understand that they run customer programs rite? Lot's of wealthy people buy race cars (even current models) but never race them.
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31 Jul 2017, 16:41 (Ref:3756458) | #5389 | |
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That's most likely what it is, but Risi did appear on a GTD entry list at one point and was removed. It's been teased a few times that they might reappear. Like you say, it's probably a customer program, but it's a possibility (and wishful thinking!)
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Because of the cost difference (negligible) and the limitation on driver lineups, I don't see why they'd simply drop down to GTD -- unless someone else was footing the bill. -mike |
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31 Jul 2017, 18:30 (Ref:3756492) | #5391 | ||
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The cost difference between GTLM and GTD is that small? Is that the running costs or all in, car, crew, tires, etc? |
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31 Jul 2017, 18:36 (Ref:3756494) | #5392 | ||
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The 488 GT3 and GTE/GTLM were designed so they can be easily converted from one spec to another.
IIRC, it's mostly electronics and some aero bits that are the big differences. Certainly not a huge cost difference between the two specs of the 488. |
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The JMW Ferrari that won GTE-Am at Le Mans this year was bought off the line as a GT3 car.
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31 Jul 2017, 19:44 (Ref:3756515) | #5395 | |
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In fact Risi said it is cheaper to upgrade than to buy the GTLM car, and then you have a resale value package with 2 specs.
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There doesn't seem to be a ton of difference and probably good value for money if you can get the seemingly slightly cheaper GT3 spec and get the GTE/GTLM conversion kit if it cost about the same just to get the GTE car.
And as I believe was touched upon, you do have to consider resale as well, as opposed to just retail. And if someone just wants the GT3 car, and you got the GTE parts, you have spares if you have the GTE/GTLM version, or maybe you can sell the spares to a willing customer, too. |
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