BTCC 2014 BTCC speculation, rumours and news - Page 23

Jiiiiiiim · 22 Oct 2013, 13:48 (Ref:3321642)

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

So the Rotek A3's, are they definitely the saloon model?

Yep it's the saloon model that has just been launched in the UK

Craner Curves · 22 Oct 2013, 16:09 (Ref:3321703)

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Originally Posted by VXDave

With regards to the Welch Proton, are they planning on running two cars or is it simply a new build for Dan? They talk about this new one having a different aero package and IIRC they did a similar thing between 2011 and 2012 but never ran two cars... can anyone enlighten?

Aero package is nothing more than new GRP bodypanels added to the basic shell. Teams would only build a new shell to make it lighter or replace a damaged one. That's why we've only seen one new shell required in the three years of NGTC so far and that was Jeff Smith after Rockingham last year. The front spec subframe helps a lot in the respect. You don't have problems with damaged chassis legs and the old subframe they used to have. Still a bit vulnerable at the rear as Smith found out, but on the whole they've been able to just cut out sections and replace them, like on Austin's A4 and Goff's Insignia.

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Originally Posted by Jiiiiiiim

Previously they rebuild the old car with new upgrades & changed from the Gen2 to the Persona model, so a change in Aero package.

The name change I believe was because the Persona is the 4 door version of the car, while the Gen-2 is/was the 5 door. Some confusion as to whether those models are still on sale these days. Very few sold, comparable to MG!

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

So the Rotek A3's, are they definitely the saloon model?

Saloons in touring car racing. It'll never catch on.

porsche962fan · 22 Oct 2013, 17:28 (Ref:3321746)

is there anything left from the KIA roumor or it died down completely ?

Thaw Daggerslash · 22 Oct 2013, 17:44 (Ref:3321758)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

is there anything left from the KIA roumor or it died down completely ?

Died off in about 2005.

Sorry, couldn't resist. People always seem to end up talking about the same things. "What about Kia?" "What about X, Y and Z?"

Fans never learn.

thetool · 22 Oct 2013, 17:46 (Ref:3321761)

He's taking the **** about Kia. At least I hope so..

jimothy84 · 22 Oct 2013, 18:12 (Ref:3321774)

Sorry to re-tread (relatively) old ground, but I've been thinking more about the new Hondas from Team Dynamics. They've made a big point on promoting the Civic as being British built, from the Union Jack on the front wing to the 'BUILT IN BRITAIN' across its bum. It just wouldn't make sense to then move to a non-British built car, so it surely has to be a Civic of some sort. Both the hatchback and tourer are or will be built at the Swindon plant. They also make the Jazz (too small for NGTC!) and the CRV, which I really dont see them heading down the Thorney/Evoque route with...

Sodemo · 22 Oct 2013, 19:00 (Ref:3321793)

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Originally Posted by Craner Curves

Saloons in touring car racing. It'll never catch on.

Hehhe, I like small saloons.

BtccLee · 22 Oct 2013, 20:08 (Ref:3321831)

In terms of supports I think the only tenuous one in terms of grids next year will be Formula Ford. If it becomes FIA F4 in 2015 then perhaps that could help. The cars exist and so do the teams. It's the drivers and the budget that don't...

TimRTC · 22 Oct 2013, 20:24 (Ref:3321842)

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Originally Posted by BtccLee

In terms of supports I think the only tenuous one in terms of grids next year will be Formula Ford. If it becomes FIA F4 in 2015 then perhaps that could help. The cars exist and so do the teams. It's the drivers and the budget that don't...

Actually both Clios and Porsches are moving onto new cars for 2014, so grids are hard to predict. I imagine the Clios will be a little less well subscribed (many of the privateers may well head for the BARC series to keep their cars), while the Porsches will (hopefully!) have a few more entries thanks to the Europe-wide adoption of the new style. Would be good to get some guest drives from Supercup or the German Carrera Cup.

PandaKing · 22 Oct 2013, 21:17 (Ref:3321879)

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

Apparently the take up of the new Porsche is rather good? I don't know for sure, but just what I heard over the tannoy at Brands Hatch a few weeks ago...? I am more concerned about the Clios. I personally loved the Fiestas, sure they were slow, but they provided simply amazing racing. They were cheap too, probably why they had such massive grids.

In terms of the BTCC, I very much adopt a "ill believe it when I see it approach" when it comes to grid numbers. Although having said that, I seem to recall Thorney stating that the Renault's are definitely in build as they have supplied parts, and I heard that the shells for the Audi A3's are underway...?

What I have heard on the Renaults is that there is a development car in build, but nothing more than that. Robb Holland said when the A3s surfaced that they were taking delivery if the shells the following week.

PandaKing · 22 Oct 2013, 21:24 (Ref:3321883)

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Originally Posted by Craner Curves

The name change I believe was because the Persona is the 4 door version of the car, while the Gen-2 is/was the 5 door. Some confusion as to whether those models are still on sale these days. Very few sold, comparable to MG!

Didn't the Gen-2 get withdrawn from the UK market in 2012, could be linked to the reason to rebrand the car, keep it relevant.

Craner Curves · 22 Oct 2013, 21:27 (Ref:3321885)

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Originally Posted by thetool

He's taking the **** about Kia. At least I hope so..

I don't think he is

That rumour's been going about for donkeys. It's replaced the Mazda rumour that was about previously!

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Originally Posted by jimothy84

Sorry to re-tread (relatively) old ground, but I've been thinking more about the new Hondas from Team Dynamics. They've made a big point on promoting the Civic as being British built, from the Union Jack on the front wing to the 'BUILT IN BRITAIN' across its bum. It just wouldn't make sense to then move to a non-British built car, so it surely has to be a Civic of some sort. Both the hatchback and tourer are or will be built at the Swindon plant. They also make the Jazz (too small for NGTC!) and the CRV, which I really dont see them heading down the Thorney/Evoque route with...

That's why to me, the tourer makes sense.

PandaKing · 23 Oct 2013, 08:42 (Ref:3322067)

http://www.btcccrazy.co.uk/btcc/red-...60-intentions/

This was posted on Reddit a couple of days ago. I haven't seen any mention of this on any other news outlet, but this is a news/speculation thread...

psq43 · 23 Oct 2013, 09:06 (Ref:3322071)

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Originally Posted by PandaKing

http://www.btcccrazy.co.uk/btcc/red-...60-intentions/

This was posted on Reddit a couple of days ago. I haven't seen any mention of this on any other news outlet, but this is a news/speculation thread...

How long can you hold your breath?

Its not the most admired of websites to be fair.

Suspect there has been some gun-jumpery with that news article for the "heard it here first" claim, which may cause red faces if it doesn't happen.
Its not been mentioned on any other news holding title.

Craner Curves · 23 Oct 2013, 10:10 (Ref:3322088)

But they're CRAZY!

PandaKing · 23 Oct 2013, 10:33 (Ref:3322096)

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Originally Posted by psq43

How long can you hold your breath?

Its not the most admired of websites to be fair.

Suspect there has been some gun-jumpery with that news article for the "heard it here first" claim, which may cause red faces if it doesn't happen.
Its not been mentioned on any other news holding title.

I got that impression from the whole layout/MakeUp of the website. Doesn't seem like much more than a blog... Probably nothing more than a team that a looking at BTCC as a potential project rather than building/entering a car.

Sodemo · 23 Oct 2013, 14:40 (Ref:3322140)

There was a mention of a NGTC BMW 3 series that a team (I can't remember what team) was looking to produce. Obviously that came to nothing since this was over a year ago.

TimRTC · 23 Oct 2013, 15:24 (Ref:3322160)

Lots of talk about using Audis (Rob Holland) and Mercs (Adam Morgan) for new 2014 cars. So a dum question - is there any advantage to using a more expensive car as the model for an NGTC vehicle? Particularly if they use a Swindon engine and with all the TOCA parts, surely there is very little of the original vehicle left aside from the shell.

Craner Curves · 23 Oct 2013, 16:06 (Ref:3322173)

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

There was a mention of a NGTC BMW 3 series that a team (I can't remember what team) was looking to produce. Obviously that came to nothing since this was over a year ago.

That was BTC Racing. Before the Chevrolet project started.

psq43 · 23 Oct 2013, 18:06 (Ref:3322217)

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

There was a mention of a NGTC BMW 3 series that a team (I can't remember what team) was looking to produce. Obviously that came to nothing since this was over a year ago.

I think that came from a much more reputable source though if your on about the 3 dark grey ones that turned out ok

medius · 23 Oct 2013, 19:08 (Ref:3322246)

Surprised nobody picked up on this, but Alex Macdowell was testing for WSR at Brands today.

Jiiiiiiim · 23 Oct 2013, 19:17 (Ref:3322250)

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Originally Posted by PandaKing

http://www.btcccrazy.co.uk/btcc/red-...60-intentions/

This was posted on Reddit a couple of days ago. I haven't seen any mention of this on any other news outlet, but this is a news/speculation thread...

Someone (no names metioned) will be

at the article as it is nothing more than a hoax! Same as last years CVR SEAT Exeo and the NHR Developments SEAT Twitter page that appeared recently. People should really do their homework before wetting themselves with excitement.

Unfortunatley people are leaving themselves open to being led up the garden path with these stories. Maybe I shouldn't be so cynical

Jiiiiiiim · 23 Oct 2013, 19:42 (Ref:3322264)

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Originally Posted by medius

Surprised nobody picked up on this, but Alex Macdowell was testing for WSR at Brands today.

Hmmmm, I saw he was there and that WSR were testing, didn't link the two together! Seems like he enjoyed his go in the Beamer!

psq43 · 23 Oct 2013, 19:55 (Ref:3322271)

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Originally Posted by psq43

I think that came from a much more reputable source though if your on about the 3 dark grey ones that turned out ok

Ignore all that. Total ********, i can't read.

He said 3 series, not 1 series. Im a cock

psq43 · 23 Oct 2013, 19:59 (Ref:3322276)

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Originally Posted by Jiiiiiiim

Someone (no names metioned) will be

at the article as it is nothing more than a hoax! Same as last years CVR SEAT Exeo and the NHR Developments SEAT Twitter page that appeared recently. People should really do their homework before wetting themselves with excitement.

Unfortunatley people are leaving themselves open to being led up the garden path with these stories. Maybe I shouldn't be so cynical

Well, as mentioned, that website, and a particular "reporter" on it, are somewhat the subject of ridicule in more than a few circles.

Wouldn't be so bad if the grammar wasn't so shocking from someone who writes for a living, or at least hopes to.

I can get away with it because I be thik

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