ELMS ELMS Discussion - Page 23

gert · 10 Jul 2021, 15:05 (Ref:4060642)

Then again, the #32 was never that important to United Autosports anyway.
Everything they do evolves about Hanson, everything else is just the side show

Mike E · 11 Jul 2021, 09:51 (Ref:4060717)

I was really enjoying this race until this never ending, IMSA-style, pass around nonsense safety car period.
The safety car should stay out for as long as it is needed to clear the incident and the pit lane should never be closed. Take your chances.

gert · 11 Jul 2021, 09:59 (Ref:4060718)

Stupid pit lane rule.

All except 22 have been massively disadvantaged.
41 for exemple could only take a tiny amount of fuel, had to stop at red light so it will be last, and now has to do a full fuel stop under green.

The race was fun until now.

Stupid rule.

I really hope they now punish all the cars that overtook the 26 that ran out of fuel.
About 10 or 15?

That was very very poorly handled by race control today IMO.

J Jay · 11 Jul 2021, 10:01 (Ref:4060719)

That was farcical. Dare I say it, SRO-esque?

Has to be said though, the top 4/5 in LMP2 all could have pitted when the #22 did, just before the safety car. The gamble (pun unintended) paid off for United.

Edit - Seems like Panis Racing also took the plunge and are now in 2nd overall.

gert · 11 Jul 2021, 10:03 (Ref:4060720)

Just hand the race to #22 already.
Everybody's favorite son, anyhow...

IMO this was the most poorly handled ACO race I have seen in a while.

J Jay · 11 Jul 2021, 10:06 (Ref:4060721)

Let's not be dramatic about it. Canal is right there, and the driver matchup goes in favour of the #65 when both of the current drivers switch out. There's still a race on.

Just to compound G-Drive's awful day - 10 second stop/go for the #26...

gert · 11 Jul 2021, 10:09 (Ref:4060722)

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Jay

Just to compound G-Drive's awful day - 10 second stop/go for the #26...

I really would like to know what they have done wrong.
Something with the SC procedure. But what exactly?

Did he leave to big a gap? Then again 92 did that too, against 26.
Something else?

J Jay · 11 Jul 2021, 10:15 (Ref:4060723)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gert

I really would like to know what they have done wrong.
Something with the SC procedure. But what exactly?

Did he leave to big a gap? Then again 92 did that too, against 26.
Something else?

Palmer mentioned "several violations" from race control regarding the SC procedure. It almost seemed like race control expected the leading LMP2s to all pit, and were caught on the hop when Rusinov stayed out and passed the SC.

The other one would be for running out of fuel when the SC pulled in, that could be deemed as not properly restarting the race.

Before you say that's stupid, I fully agree.

Edit - Rusinov has just said that they had an error in their fuel management, the wrong numbers were shown and he didn't realise the car was out of fuel until cutouts on the restarting lap.

Edit edit - G-Drive's day gets better and better. Team manager called for the #25 pushing its sister car into the pits...

gert · 11 Jul 2021, 10:21 (Ref:4060725)

I don't think he passed the SC? At least not that I saw...

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Jay

Edit edit - G-Drive's day gets better and better. Team manager called for the #25 pushing its sister car into the pits...

#24 I think, the non-G-Drive one.
If did they did that, ACO have just caused that kind of thing by themselves.

What would they have preferred? 26 stuck out of fuel in the middle of the road at pit entry?

J Jay · 11 Jul 2021, 10:25 (Ref:4060726)

Yeah it was the #24, my error.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gert

What would they have preferred? 26 stuck out of fuel in the middle of the road at pit entry?

...if it meant another SC procedure, yes!

Edit - FCY. Panis Racing lead out of the pits.

Mike E · 11 Jul 2021, 10:36 (Ref:4060727)

Those two incidents weren't so different. Maybe race control didn't want enjoy that SC period either.

gert · 11 Jul 2021, 10:51 (Ref:4060728)

why so long for this FCY? The piece of bodywork has been removed minutes ago?
Are they waiting for 22 to reach the pitlane to offer them another free stop?

EDIT: Yes they are, 22 pits under FCY... again!

Mike E · 11 Jul 2021, 11:34 (Ref:4060735)

Maybe they were doing some house keeping somewhere else

gert · 11 Jul 2021, 11:52 (Ref:4060737)

Things are only getting better

Stream suspended for policy violations.

Mike E · 11 Jul 2021, 11:55 (Ref:4060738)

It's back!

J Jay · 11 Jul 2021, 11:56 (Ref:4060739)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gert

Things are only getting better

Stream suspended for policy violations.

All part of the ACO's master plan to get us all watching on French-hosted Dailymotion.

Despite the stream's issues, Stevens (the worst current Platinum driver?) is being slowly caught by Gamble, taking traffic into account.

At Le Castellet, Gamble blew his load somewhat and he was comfortably held off by the #26. Let's see if he's learned his lesson.

Mike E · 11 Jul 2021, 11:58 (Ref:4060740)

It's gone!

gert · 11 Jul 2021, 12:00 (Ref:4060741)

this is ridiculous

J Jay · 11 Jul 2021, 12:00 (Ref:4060742)

Welp, time for Facebook.

gert · 11 Jul 2021, 12:05 (Ref:4060744)

Come on ACO, get your act together !

gert · 11 Jul 2021, 12:08 (Ref:4060745)

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Jay

Welp, time for Facebook.

I don't do facebook, so can't see that.
Thanks anyway.

Thank you very much ACO.
What could have been a nice morning/afternoon of watching this race has been totally ruined.

J Jay · 11 Jul 2021, 12:11 (Ref:4060746)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gert

I don't do facebook, so can't see that.
Thanks anyway.

You're welcome. You don't need an account to watch the video (I don't have one), but if you prefer not to use Facebook at all - which is honestly the right thing to do - then there aren't any other options.

It's a shame too, Monza has given a good race so far.

gert · 11 Jul 2021, 12:15 (Ref:4060747)

All things Facebook have been blocked in my firewall, so I can't watch that.

J Jay · 11 Jul 2021, 12:22 (Ref:4060748)

Well, allow me to give you some news:

#6 & #4 collide into Lesmo 1, Gamble right behind has to take to the gravel to avoid them but rejoins. However, the time lost has kept the #65 ahead.

FCY to recover the #6.

Graham Goodwin · 14 Jul 2021, 06:48 (Ref:4060979)

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Jay

"Stevens (the worst current Platinum driver?)".

That didn't age well did it?

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