My Tracks

[Lustigson]

Eh... OK. Sorry!

[the_royksopp]

That looks SMASHIN', Lustig!

[pirenzo]

1 or 2?

#1

[pirenzo]

#2

[Lustigson]

Both are very nice, P. I think you finally got your Bahrain-like first and second corners in number two, there.

[pirenzo]

lol.

I wanted that first chicane to have a tight exit. More of that bunching the cars up BS

[f1freak]

two...

better mix, i dont know, i like it better ...

[pirenzo]

yeah, #2 is definitely more of a racers track.
My favorite too...

[pirenzo]

A pretty drastic edit of Montreal...

[Lustigson]

Well, not too drastic, there, P. It looks pretty good. The only bad thing about it is the rather sharp right after the first chicane. But that's already there ofcourse. I think it keeps cars from overtaking in the chicane. I tried to smooth it a bit in my version.

[Lustigson]

Now that I look at it, the track IS drastig. The wall of champions chicane is gone and you moved the pitlane as well.

[Lustigson]

Here's another view on Montréal. Maybe as radical as Pirenzo's. I moved the pitlane to a completely different area, too, but kept the majority of the track intact.

[Chaynes321]

thats an interesting edit ... i could imagine that one, nice

[the_royksopp]

Pirenzo, those two variants are nice, but Lustigs is better .

Some weeks ago you posted something about a street track in London being used for a PR-event in the UKGP-weekend. Where did ya find that?

[Lustigson]

Know what Montréal should do? Lose the rowing strip thing. That would make more room for paddock and stuff.

[shiny side up!]

I like Lustig's edit, but it is too much of an old-school type design for F1 to race on, nowadays, which is a shame

[pirenzo]

TR, I can't remember but its big news here of course. Its on July 6th and I'm planning to go.

[pirenzo]

Originally posted by shiny side up!
I like Lustig's edit, but it is too much of an old-school type design for F1 to race on, nowadays, which is a shame

The biggest shame everybody thinks that. Its facilites are adequate, if a bit cramped, and that should be enough IMO.
The paddock doesn't need to be bigger, it would just help, and abandonning a track because some other track has a bigger paddock or something is is terribly sad in my opinion.

Lustig, sure, but what if they wanted to host the Olympics again

[Fish_Flake]

Originally posted by pirenzo
Lustig, sure, but what if they wanted to host the Olympics again

What, P? They're still trying to pay off the last one!

[shiny side up!]

The biggest shame everybody thinks that. Its facilites are adequate, if a bit cramped, and that should be enough IMO. The paddock doesn't need to be bigger, it would just help, and abandonning a track because some other track has a bigger paddock or something is is terribly sad in my opinion.

I was referring to the track layout more so than the infrastructure. I agree that too many great tracks in all forms of motorsport get left behind as tracks with bigger/newer/shiny-er facilities come along.

[Purist]

I would have to say that TK has had something of an unfair advantage in getting his 6 Le Mans wins. His cars were so fast to begin with, and were reliable beyond belief. If the gearbox did go, it cold be changed in 5 minutes. Ickx had no such luck, except for in some cases having the best car in the field, but even then, it was still so much more unpredictable.

As to the matter of facilities, why the heck did they think they needed that elevated pit/paddock bit at Monaco? They've gone without it for 75 years. Also, and many have noted this, the character of the tracks themselves are taking a back seat to massive and overly extravagant grandstands, garages, and paddocks.

[pirenzo]

Yeah, but every year he's driven the R8 there's always been at least 2 others in the race...
And the WSC95 Porsche that he drove in 1997 wasn't easily the fastest.

[the_royksopp]

I would have to say that TK has had something of an unfair advantage in getting his 6 Le Mans wins. His cars were so fast to begin with, and were reliable beyond belief. If the gearbox did go, it cold be changed in 5 minutes. Ickx had no such luck, except for in some cases having the best car in the field, but even then, it was still so much more unpredictable.

Alright, now i maybe sound like a desperate nationalist fed up with danes doing pretty bad on the international sports scene, but i dont think you're right there purist .

Just look at TK's achievements:

24h Le Mans Experiences (7)
2004 : Winner / Audi R8 Team Goh (Capello-Ara)
2003 : Winner / Bentley Speed 8 (Capello-Smith)
2002 : Winner / Audi R8 2002 (Biela-Pirro)
2001 : Winner / Audi R8 Joest (Biela-Pirro)
2000 : Winner / Audi R8 Joest (Biela-Pirro)
1999 : Abandon 20Å* h Off the Track / BMW (Lehto-Muller)
1998 : Abandon 4Å* h Front and back axel assembly / BMW (Stuck-Soper)
1997 : Winner FL / TWR Joest (Alboreto-Johansson)


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International Experiences
2004 : DTM /Audi Abt, 4° Estoril Hockenheim, 10° Adria LMES /Audi R8 Goh, 3° Monza 1000
2003 : ALMS /Bentley Speed 8, 4° 12h Sebring 7° FIA SC /Audi Goh, 1° 1000km Spa 1° LM 1000km /Audi Goh
2002 : Chpion ALMS /Audi R8, 4 win. 4 pod.
2001 : 4° chp ALMS /Audi R8, 2 win. 2 pod. ELMS /Audi R8, 2 win.
2000 : ALMS /Audi R8R, 1st 12h Sebring , 2è Petit Le Mans BTCC, 3 win.+ 3 pod. Test driver Michelin F1 7° BTCC, 3 win.
1999 : 1st 12h Sebring /BMW 3è STW /Honda Accord JAS, 3 win.+ 6 pod.+ 1 PP + 5 FL
1998 : 11è ADAC STW /Honda Accord, PP Salsburgring, 3è Wunstorf Test driver Tyrrell F1
1997 : 6° F3000 /Lola Judd Autosport Racing, 1 win., 2 pod. 2 PP JGTC /Toyota Supra, 4è Mine
1996 : 6° F3000 /Lola Edenbridge Shannon Racing, 2 pod. JGTC /Toyota
1995 : 2° F.Nippon /Reynard 95 D 5° JGTC Japan /Toyota, 6° Senda‹, 7° Mine
1994 : 9° F3000 Japan, 8° Suzuka 2° JTCC /Toyota, 5 win. 3° Macao Tourism
1993 : 1st Japan F3 /Toms, 5 win. 1° Fuji 2° Macao F3/Tom's JTCC /Nissan, 1° 500km Fuji
1992 : 5è F3 Japan /Ralt Toyota Navi Connetion,1° Suzuka, 2 pod. 5° Macao 2° JTCC Nissan 3° JSP /Toyota
1991 : 1st Germany F3 /Ralt VW Motorsport, 3 win., 6° Macao
1987 : F.Ford
1984 to 1990 : Karting, 1° DK F.Nordic 84 , 1° Scandinavia Senior 85 , 1° Italy Open 86 , 1° DK Senior 86, 2° World Chpionship 87

I think it's fair to say he's one of the better out there .

[pirenzo]

Put it this way, Derek Bell thinks he's a deserving 6 time winner, and Ickx said to Tom himself at the Monaco Grand Prix that he was sure Tom would equal his record...

[the_royksopp]

Yes . Derek was good aswell.