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NaBUru38 · 24 Oct 2023, 17:29 (Ref:4182827)

TCR South America - standings after Velo Cittá:

ARG Ignacio Montenegro (Honda), 435
ARG Bernardo Llaver (Toyota), 426
BRA Raphael Reis (Cupra), 353
URU Juan Manuel Casella (Honda), 346
ARG Juan Ángel Rosso (Toyota), 312
BRA Galid Osman (Cupra), 296
BRA Rafael Suzuki (Lynk), 274
BRA Pedro Cardoso (Cupra), 221
ARG José Manuel Sapag (Toyota), 200
ARG Fabián Yannantuoni (Toyota), 199

The final round is on December 3 at Cascavel.

NaBUru38 · 28 Nov 2023, 20:44 (Ref:4187707)

And this weekend it's the final round of the TCR South America in Cascavel.

NaBUru38 · 6 Dec 2023, 16:56 (Ref:4188459)

TCR South America - final standings after Cascavel:

ARG Ignacio Montenegro (Honda), 468
ARG Bernardo Llaver (Toyota), 452
BRA Raphael Reis (Cupra), 392
ARG Juan Ángel Rosso (Toyota), 370
BRA Galid Osman (Cupra), 356
BRA Rafael Suzuki (Lynk), 331
URU Juan Manuel Casella (Honda), 329
ARG Fabián Yannantuoni (Toyota), 253
BRA Pedro Cardoso (Cupra), 233
ARG José Manuel Sapag (Toyota), 212

redshoes · 8 Dec 2023, 12:24 (Ref:4188642)

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2023...roup-for-2024/
TCR UK have already announced a 'Gen 1' Cup for 2024, WSC have now created an official 'TCR Gen 1' class for national competition

Alfa Romeo Giulietta RF TCR
Audi RS 3 LMS (SEQ & DSG)
CUPRA TCR (SEQ & DSG)
Honda Civic Type R FK2 TCR
LADA Vesta TCR
Opel/Holden/Vauxhall Astra TCR
Peugeot 308 Racing Cup
SEAT Leon Cup Racer
Subaru WRX STi TCR
Volkswagen Golf GTI TCR (SEQ & DSG)

TuteZaek · 8 Dec 2023, 16:05 (Ref:4188663)

Quote:

Originally Posted by redshoes

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2023...roup-for-2024/
TCR UK have already announced a 'Gen 1' Cup for 2024, WSC have now created an official 'TCR Gen 1' class for national competition

Alfa Romeo Giulietta RF TCR
Audi RS 3 LMS (SEQ & DSG)
CUPRA TCR (SEQ & DSG)
Honda Civic Type R FK2 TCR
LADA Vesta TCR
Opel/Holden/Vauxhall Astra TCR
Peugeot 308 Racing Cup
SEAT Leon Cup Racer
Subaru WRX STi TCR
Volkswagen Golf GTI TCR (SEQ & DSG)

And there goes the commonality of the championship models and one of the biggest draws of TCR

Petoli · 9 Dec 2023, 12:30 (Ref:4188723)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuteZaek

And there goes the commonality of the championship models and one of the biggest draws of TCR

In what way

Many series had a seperate cup for the DSG car. The cars would all race to together and earn points for the main series but the DSG cars would compete for a DSG cup in that

Italy has a whole DSG championship, seperate from TCR Italy

How is a seperate gen 1 cup for older cars a bad thing. Gives people who cant afford a new model or those at the back a trophy to fight for

NaBUru38 · 19 Dec 2023, 20:51 (Ref:4189481)

The 2024 TCR South America schedule is out, but venues are to be confirmed:

Apr 14: Brazil (endurance)
May 26: Brazil
June 16: Brazil
July 21: Brazil (TCR World Tour)
Aug 4: El Pinar, Uruguay (TCR World Tour)
Aug 25: Uruguay
Sept 15: Argentina
Oct 6: Argentina
Nov 9: Argentina
Dec 1: Argentina

**FIRE** · 20 Dec 2023, 16:44 (Ref:4189509)

TCR Germany returns in 2024:

Quote:

2024 TCR Germany calendar
15 April – Salzburgring Testing Day
17/19 May – Red Bull Ring (TCR Eastern Europe)
?7/9 June – Slovakiaring (TCR Eastern Europe)
?28/30 June – Nürburgring
?9/11 August – Hockenheimring
20/22 September – Salzburgring (TCR Eastern Europe)
11/13 October – Nürburgring

Quote:

Franz Engstler will take up the role of promoter.

“We aim to go back to the basics,” he said. “This means, affordable motorsport for drivers and teams as well as thrilling racing with a variety of car brands and maximum accessibility.”

Source: https://www.touringcartimes.com/2023...r-2024-season/

NaBUru38 · 21 Dec 2023, 14:16 (Ref:4189571)

One month ago, the TCR Eastern Europe had announced a completely different 2024 schedule:

Quote:

https://easterneurope.tcr-series.com...e-2024-season/

April 27-28: Balaton Park
May 18-19: Red Bull Ring
June 15-16: Hungaroring
August 3-4: Most
August 24-25: Slovakia Ring
September 7-8: Brno

NaBUru38 · 21 Dec 2023, 14:27 (Ref:4189572)

2024 TCR Denmark schedule:

April 27-28: Padborg Park
May 11-12: Jyllandsringen
June 8-9: Rudskogen
8 August 17-18: Jyllandsringen
Aug 31 - Sept 1: Ring Djursland
September 13-14: Padborg Park
September 28-29: Jyllandsringen

NaBUru38 · 21 Dec 2023, 14:29 (Ref:4189573)

2024 TCR Italy schedule:

May 3-5: Misano
June 7-9: Pergusa
July 12-14: Mugello
September 6-8: Imola
September 20-22: Vallelunga
October 25-27: Monza

**FIRE** · 21 Dec 2023, 14:37 (Ref:4189577)

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

2024 TCR Italy schedule:

May 3-5: Misano
June 7-9: Pergusa
July 12-14: Mugello
September 6-8: Imola
September 20-22: Vallelunga
October 25-27: Monza

Pergusa, long time no see.

Speed-King · 22 Dec 2023, 10:17 (Ref:4189640)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRE

Pergusa, long time no see.

Italian GT has been trying for the last few years, but typically not too many teams were willing to make the trek down there.

NaBUru38 · 1 Mar 2024, 14:30 (Ref:4199110)

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

The 2024 TCR South America schedule is out, but venues are to be confirmed

Here's the venues:

Apr 14: Interlagos (endurance)
May 26: Cascavel
June 16: Velocittá
July 21: Interlagos (TCR World Tour)
Aug 4: El Pinar (TCR World Tour)
Aug 25: Mercedes
Sept 15: TBC
Oct 6: Buenos Aires (with Stock Car Brasil)
Nov 10: Termas de R?*o Hondo
Dec 1: Rosario

I want to see a race in Buenos Aires this year, and the Stock Car would be awesome.

v8supes · 11 Mar 2024, 19:07 (Ref:4200890)

I do wonder where the next TCR cars are going to come from. Will anyone develop anything new?

Andrew Abbott · 12 Mar 2024, 09:19 (Ref:4200962)

It's not a new body, but CUPRA is offering the 'new' Leon VZ for this year.
The Honda Civic Type-R FL5 was new to the market last year.
The Toyota Corolla TCR was new to the market last year (but only currently in South America).
The Lynk & Co 03 FL (for 'facelift') was introduced last year, marking an evolution for the 03 TCR.
GRM is developing a new model Peugeot 308 TCR for release later this year.

However, it's clear that there are fewer cars coming out of the VAG Group than previously (at the peak there were Volkswagen, Audi and SEAT and with Volkswagen long gone and Audi scaling back customer support we're left with predominantly CUPRA now).

The Hyundai Elantra N is in its fourth year now, and might be expected to get a facelift soon.

The challenges of smaller car builders offering truly global customer support are clear. The larger firms with more resources (VAG) can manage this easier. Hence, it seems at the moment, newer cars are more likely to stay regional (i.e. Toyota, Peugeot).

NaBUru38 · 15 Mar 2024, 15:34 (Ref:4201346)

Matias Rossi will race full-time in TCR South America with Toyota.

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2024...south-america/

Rubio · 5 Apr 2024, 12:28 (Ref:4203942)

TCR Germany restart postponed to 2025 due to low amount of participants
(I believe effectively that's cancellation, not sure interest can rise within a year)

It seems that TCR in Europe is in a huge decline, with grids dropping off everywhere, TCR Europe, TCR UK, TCR Eastern Europe, TCR Denmark. TCR World Tour has just 5 confirmed entries with 15 days before the start of the season.

The only championship which seems to grow is the super low-cost TCR Italy DSG...

Wonder what is the main reason for sich a decline. Has the cost risen way too high? Or everyone is just switching to GT3/GT4

NaBUru38 · 5 Apr 2024, 14:19 (Ref:4203949)

Races are usually boring, so they draw few spectators and therefore little ticket sales and TV rights.

Also promotion has been ineffective. There's no marquee race in Europe or North America.

NaBUru38 · 11 Apr 2024, 14:02 (Ref:4204624)

The TCR South America will race this weekend at Interlagos.

It will have a single 80-minute race, with a 20-minute break for refuelling and driver change.

There's 19 entries, with 17 Brazilians, 8 Argentines, 3 Uruguayans, 1 Spaniard, and 9 drivers TBC.

https://southamerica.tcr-series.com/...-de-interlagos

NaBUru38 · 22 May 2024, 14:56 (Ref:4209989)

The TCR South America visits Cascavel this weekend.

There's 19 entries, including Norberto Fontana and Leonel Pernia. Four drivers are to be confirmed.

https://southamerica.tcr-series.com/...asil-banco-brb

Speed-King · 25 May 2024, 13:21 (Ref:4210270)

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/v...is-234351.html

I'm wondering if that Golf Clubsport24 really is the cancelled Golf 8 TCR...

samchevron · 28 May 2024, 10:39 (Ref:4210774)

It is, Max Kruse Racing took over the car and will be using it this weekend in the Nürburgring 24 Hours this weekend.

Turns out that there were only two of them, one was destroyed and Max Kruse Racing have the other.

As its not a homologated TCR car, its running in a different class though.

NaBUru38 · 28 May 2024, 14:09 (Ref:4210786)

TCR South America - standings after Cascavel:

ARG Juan Ángel Rosso (Toyota), 78
BRA Raphael Reis (Cupra), 74
BRA Rodrigo Baptista (Honda), 72
BRA Pedro Cardoso (Peugeot), 70
ARG Fabián Yannantuoni (Toyota), 63
URU Juan Manuel Casella (Honda), 59

Round 3 is one June 15-16 at Velocittá.

V8 Fireworks · 30 May 2024, 21:01 (Ref:4211043)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Abbott

GRM is developing a new model Peugeot 308 TCR for release later this year.

newer cars are more likely to stay regional (i.e. Toyota, Peugeot).

Has anyone spotted this Peugeot? I guess it is still under development?

Why does BMW or MINI have no interest in TCR? A BMW 128ti TCR would be quite neat IMO.

Is there a problem that selling TCRs is less profitable than selling GT4s and GT3s?!

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