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Old 3 Nov 2024, 11:37 (Ref:4233745)   #651
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My understanding is it's set by the final free practice session that occurred. Hasn't that always been the case in F1?

If that is the case, why has there been so much deliberation about how the grid should be set regarding this race?
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Old 3 Nov 2024, 12:08 (Ref:4233767)   #652
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If that is the case, why has there been so much deliberation about how the grid should be set regarding this race?
There's debate about everything that happens in F1, rules about it or not?

The only real change to that regulation for decades has been when they introduced sprint races and had to reword it as it as it referenced FP3 specifically. Now it says FP1 on sprint weekends, FP3 on normal weekends.
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Damn shame it was wet, I would think Lewis might have been allowed a run lap and a show off applause lap!!
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How absolutely cool!
I thought it looked a bit naked and in fact odd without its now illegal Marlboro stickers in place. Good to see it and hear it on the broadcast though
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I thought it looked a bit naked and in fact odd without its now illegal Marlboro stickers in place. Good to see it and hear it on the broadcast though

That is really weird because if it had been a historic race, the logos would have been permitted.
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That is really weird because if it had been a historic race, the logos would have been permitted.
Interesting. The strobes were run back in the day in countries that didn't allow tobacco promotion, so in fact the strobes are just as meaningful as having the name of the tobacco company down the side of the car if you think about it.

I might be that even a historic race held in Brazil might not be permitted to run tobacco logos.
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Interesting. The strobes were run back in the day in countries that didn't allow tobacco promotion, so in fact the strobes are just as meaningful as having the name of the tobacco company down the side of the car if you think about it.

I might be that even a historic race held in Brazil might not be permitted to run tobacco logos.
Maybe, but some other logo's on the car, like Shell etc, were all missing too.
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Maybe, but some other logo's on the car, like Shell etc, were all missing too.
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It's still so weird to me that you can't have a tobacco brand on the car but every sport and every stadium has some sort of betting ad emblazened around the place.
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That is really weird because if it had been a historic race, the logos would have been permitted.
Indeed. Or maybe not in certain areas now. There was a Heritage Touring car race supporting the recent Bathurst 1000. Genuine cars, not replicas. Many of the period liveries were cigarette sponsors. Usually historic liveries are permitted to run as in period. For practice and qualifying this was the case but come one of the races a directive was issued which resulted in logos being disguised.

It resulted in a comical farce as cars appeared with maybe a letter of the brand name taped over. It likely resulted in more brand awareness in the media than had they run unaltered. Benson and Hedges Racing became Bens-- Hedges Racing, Winfield became Wi-field etc.



It seems it is a broadcasting law change here that cause the Bathurst problem...ifits televised live on TV its a no no. No TV coverage no problem.
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Ironically the Programme had the full cigarette brand name in the entry list, and the commentary mentioned the names in full! A total farce.
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I thought Zakspeed changing the name of their sponsor from East to West was clever.
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Best one I ever saw was rallycross, Bjorn Skogstad was sponsored by Camel, they left the logo and even the words from a distance, but up close it said Came1st with a tiny st!!
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The GPDA pushes back on swearing and general need for the Pres to lecture drivers in the media. Also calls for transparency with what happens to all the fine money. Personally I think it's good that the drivers are making a collective point.
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many good points by the drivers which i agree with. treat them like adults and offer transparency on where the fine money goes for sure.

but the part where they ask not to be given instructions through the media...while totally a valid point, one which im sure would do much to reduce the acrimony (by keeping it out of the public spotlight), i dont think the GPDA posting their letter in an open format via social media while similarly asking the other side to not do things like this is a very constructive step.
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