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9 Nov 2019, 00:05 (Ref:3939321) | #676 | |
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Supernationals are actual cars unlike RX2 and built upon regular car chassis. 2400 is the maximum allowed size of the engine in that class while Supernational can run anything, although I think they have to add weight to compensate depending on how big engines they run.
And yes, you can mix cars and engines however you like. Otherwise there would just be Volvos and some BMWs. I don't know the costs of running a supernational but I can't imagine them being too high really. The cars are fairly simple, you can run stuff yourself and they are fun to drive. Tommy Rustad for example went to supernational after quitting STCC and before doing Supercars again. |
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9 Nov 2019, 07:43 (Ref:3939376) | #677 | |
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Cars are up to 100k I’ve heard and budgets above that...
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10 Nov 2019, 13:37 (Ref:3939702) | #678 | |
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I would think very few supernational cars are that expensive honestly
Maybe new build, but not second hand, you can buy them for 30=60k And running costs are limited up there to transport and tyres I would think. 100k is a lot of money and you could run a cheap supercar on that too. |
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10 Nov 2019, 13:44 (Ref:3939705) | #679 | |
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I assumed the Supernationals are pretty expensive.
Shame the Touring car class didn't have more power and larger saloon shape cars. I think in that case it would be more populair, at least at the public. |
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10 Nov 2019, 13:55 (Ref:3939706) | #680 | |
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Mad finish to the season, so tense.
Would've preferred Bakkerud or Gronholm to win tbh, there's something about the Hansen family I just find a bit creepy. |
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Gutted for Bakkerud: if only Timo had lasted until the end. Gronholm should have been Champion though, damn his appendix! |
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10 Nov 2019, 15:00 (Ref:3939717) | #682 | ||
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Pritty much same from me, was really hoping for Andreas to win but congratulations to Timmy.
On a slightly different note, here's a look to the future. At Lydden Hill on Saturday there was a small winter series meeting with one interesting addition, a full electric Rx car. See what you think of the future that's coming soon. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...08337509320684 |
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10 Nov 2019, 16:45 (Ref:3939730) | #683 | |
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That was close at the end, lucky for Timmy he kept the car going. Bakkerud so close, if only he could have got in front of Gronholm, who has really emerged as a star this season
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10 Nov 2019, 23:38 (Ref:3939823) | #686 | ||
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Good clean racing all day, Track limit markers well managed some people would disagree ?, should be enforced more on other tracks. Final well biggest let down, force full driving on the first lap by Hanson what for no wonder Andreas Backkerud looked well p---- o---- on the podium. Where has the race craft gone it could have been a fantastic race. Good event win for Gronholm
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Like the clip of the aggressive Peugeot mechanic in Latvia, this could be a selective bit of editing...
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11 Nov 2019, 19:53 (Ref:3940017) | #688 | ||
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It may be they thought he was, rightly, about to complain about Timmy's driving standards. Either way cements your view that these guys are hard to warm to.
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11 Nov 2019, 21:24 (Ref:3940034) | #689 | |
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To be honest none of them are easy to like.
Both Andreas and Timmy are very aggressive, what i call nasty drivers st times. And both lack a lot of class, This is a not a big series, all the money has gone, yet you have a grown man crying, he hasn't beaten anyone of note. And I also can't remember his Dad or any of the other greats being so classless, he wouldn't even look Bakkerud in the eye, and the crap from Kevin was very classless too. Fair enough, beat Loeb Petter, Johan, etc you can do that, but beating your brother and another guy like you is nothing to shout about to be honest. All looked a bit tacky, there is clearly no love between the teams, I imagine Doran being there does not help either side. |
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11 Nov 2019, 22:08 (Ref:3940045) | #690 | |
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Bakkerud made a small mistake and payed a big price for it. Timmy is aggressive but this is rallycross and Bakkerud knows how to dish it out. This has blown up because it's almost becoming tribal in who people support and a bad us vs them mentality. Andreas has a bigger following and he is using (or at the very least not cooling down) that support against anyone he faces.
However, I don't think either deserved the championship. In my eyes Gronholm should have won. He finished just 25 behind and Joni Wiman scored 39 in the 2 rounds he missed so it's easy to imagine Niclas scoring a similar amount. Hopefully next year he can do it. |
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11 Nov 2019, 22:47 (Ref:3940053) | #691 | |
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I think Kevin H is the classless of them all, on and off the track. Bakkerud has pulled some dirty moves and isn't very apologetic about it, I think you're right that Doran and the entourage help culture that. Timmy is generally quite clean on the track, I think yesterday's race was pure rallycross, but it's his off track that I dislike.
I'm also of the opinion that Gronholm would've been a more deserving winner, and I'd love to see Timur winning more because he strikes me as a genuinely nice guy (if a tad aggressive on the track) |
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12 Nov 2019, 00:33 (Ref:3940067) | #692 | |
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Not sure how you can call Timmy clean, for me Kevin reminds me of his Dad, Timmy is far more aggressive, obviously you watch a different sport to me lol!
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12 Nov 2019, 09:17 (Ref:3940129) | #693 | ||
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12 Nov 2019, 19:31 (Ref:3940233) | #694 | |
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I am not fan of any of them to be honest
I quite like Scheider coz he is clean and decent, and I enjoyed Abbring when he came over. But the top guys are arrogant, overly aggressive and need to grow a pair and be like their peers were before them, have some class. |
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21 Nov 2019, 12:55 (Ref:3941922) | #695 | |
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There is something amiss about the handling of Bakkeruds protest post final. Timmy is making aggressive moves in the start and the contact that puts him in the wall looks intentional. Looking at his positioning going into the turn, the line he takes up the inside isn't a viable line unless he plans to bounce off Bakkerud.
The way it is described in the media, apparently marshals then call Kevin as a witness despite Timur being between them at the time. Kevin who is obviously extremely biased, yet they decide on the matter without involving other witnesses. This feels like a clear case of nice guys finish last; Bakkerud hasn't announced his 2020 plans yet while the Hansens pulling out might hurt the seies. There has always been politics in TX, but this just feels bad and makes me even less interested in the sport. On the upside, Bakkeruds vid from the event is really good. I might just follow him through whatever he picks next year. Even more disturbing - I find myself taking a liking to Liam. Lol. |
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22 Nov 2019, 22:40 (Ref:3942233) | #696 | ||
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I was hoping that the latest episode of Bakkerud Life might focus a bit more on the post-race process, but they didn't seem to discuss it too much.
Some interesting snippets in there though: didn't seem like Timur thought it what happened in the final was fair? And Kevin Hansen was called as the witness for the incident? That doesn't seem entirely fair if true? |
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