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Old 23 Nov 2004, 20:06 (Ref:1162059)   #7151
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And so, on the birthday of Fantasy Tracks (yes, really, it's been one year), I've updated the Fantasy Tracks site...

I thought that a change would be nice...

I'd love to hear your opinions on it...

http://fantasytracks.2ya.com...
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Old 23 Nov 2004, 20:30 (Ref:1162083)   #7152
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on OLAVARRIA you have put novembre 44 not 24 :X.
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Old 24 Nov 2004, 02:50 (Ref:1162397)   #7153
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The track information needs to be in a table or something so that it doesn't span the whole screen, and the font on the track listing kind of irrates me. But the rest is good.

Actually it doesn't strike me as all that different than it was before, besides the graphical menu on each page.

Sorry if I sound like a critic. I do web design as a hobby sometimes and my standards are a bit high.
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Old 24 Nov 2004, 08:03 (Ref:1162508)   #7154
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No problem Slurpy. I love criticism, it makes a person better ...

Umm, well. The track info table spans the 'whole' screen was something that I wanted to encorporate, because I wanted the site to be as simple as can be. I had tables (on the last version, mind you, this is FT V3.0 ), and it was good, but change is also good...

The font is Arial rather then what I had before, Times New Roman. The reason (and I think I'll have to agree with you) that it looks bad on the track information screen, is because all the track names are in capitals, whereas the rest of the site is all, not.

It is indeed similar to the last one, not too different, but small differences make big changes...

Thanks for your comments...
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Old 24 Nov 2004, 08:39 (Ref:1162531)   #7155
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Umm, well. The track info table spans the 'whole' screen was something that I wanted to encorporate, because I wanted the site to be as simple as can be. I had tables (on the last version, mind you, this is FT V3.0 ), and it was good, but change is also good...
Simple is good, but it doesn't need to be painfully simple. Allow me to quote Webmonkey:

"The bigger the [font], the easier it is to read; the longer the line length, the more difficult it is to read."

"Why I love blockquotes ... White space is your friend. White space doesn't necessarily need to be white - it can be any color you want, but it should be blank. Eye relief is the concept here."


http://webmonkey.wired.com/webmonkey...html?tw=design, if you want to see for yourself.

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Old 24 Nov 2004, 09:00 (Ref:1162546)   #7156
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Indeed. There is some good stuff there.

Most of the stuff which I had learnt HTML code from was http://www.lissaexplains.com/...

I've been playing around with code for a few years now. The only real good sites that I have are of course FT and my other site, my links site... however, the last time when I updated FT, I made the exact same layout for the links site, so it doesnt look that different...

I never called myself a pro, so yea. Basically, like you said though, the basic rules of website design is white spaces... and I may not think I have enough of them...

Well, I'm leaving the site on for a while at least, and I may change it soon... but nonetheless, thanks a lot for the comments... greatly appreciated...
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Old 24 Nov 2004, 14:08 (Ref:1162789)   #7157
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Looks nice, Freak .
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Old 24 Nov 2004, 20:42 (Ref:1163157)   #7158
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OK guys. Another new track I came up with the other day. I finished it this evening. I kinda like it... though I'm not too happy with the oval. I drew in that later after having sketched the main track.

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Old 24 Nov 2004, 21:15 (Ref:1163180)   #7159
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Looks good Lustig, though I think I'll quietly forget about the oval section.
I just wondered though about a few things.
  1. Perhaps the middle straight with the secondary pitlane could be longer?
  2. At the double left rejoining the oval, I think the looser of the two curves should be first, and have the tighter one second, a bit further towards the oval, so that firstly the straight up to the chicane is longer, and secondly, you bunch the cars a bit more for passing.
  3. Again to encourage more racing, I think the second bit of the chicane should be looser, more like the first chicane at Melbourne, where you sometimes see cars coming back at each other when one tries to pass.
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Old 25 Nov 2004, 15:06 (Ref:1163951)   #7160
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great tracks guys!
heres my latest ...
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Old 25 Nov 2004, 16:13 (Ref:1163989)   #7161
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Thats NICE, Lustig, though, pirenzos ideas are good too .

CG, dunno about that one . A bit... ordinary, maybe? .
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Thanks P, TR. I like Pirenzo's suggestions, too. I might make some changes later this week. No time tonight, unfortunately.
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Old 25 Nov 2004, 16:28 (Ref:1164011)   #7163
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CG, I like it. Ordinary? Well a bit, but its still got a nice flow and some good passing spots.
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Old 25 Nov 2004, 18:07 (Ref:1164147)   #7166
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And yet another from me.
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Hmm, nice track P. Interesting solution at the penultimate corner. Two ways around it.
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About your suggestions, P: a bit like this, maybe?

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for some reason it reminds me of rockingham motor speedway.

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And here's my view on your latest track, P.

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for some reason it reminds me of rockingham motor speedway.
Well, now that you mention it, it reminds me of the Lausitzring in Germany even more.
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Old 25 Nov 2004, 21:48 (Ref:1164342)   #7172
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Reminds me of Bahrain.
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Reminds me of Bahrain.
That too.
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Old 26 Nov 2004, 13:35 (Ref:1164844)   #7174
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Very nice P. I'd tighten T10 though . But yeah, nice solution to the final corner combo .
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Hey guys. I was looking through some old tracks the other day and stumbled on this on. I posted it a couple of months ago, but I had another go at it tonight. I added more details like roads and bridges, landscape an forest, etc. I named it after the legendary Dutch privateer Grand Prix driver, Jonkheer Carel Pieter Anthonie Jan Hubertus Godin de Beaufort.

After covering the long start-finish straight, the cars descend almost 30 metres towards the first turn, the right-hander 'De poort' (the gate). It is immediately followed by the left-hand corner 'De riem' (the belt).

The track moves downwards even more through this turn as well as through the fast right 'De zweep' (the whip). Then the drivers cover a fast straight, gradually taking them another 40 metres down.

Boxer is the lowest point and arguably the fastest corner of the track. It's increasing radius forces the drivers to brake continiuously. Next, the 'Karelberg' (Mount Charles) corner, a slow left-hander, leads onto another, albeit shorter, straight.

This backstretch contains a right-hand kink called 'De knik ' and leads back uphill aobut 40 metres to 'Bron' (the well), a slow, left-hand hairpin.

A short straight takes the cars into a fast right-left-right combination called 'De Slang' (the snake) moving up, downd and back up. Another short straight ends up another 20 metres at 'Parabool' (parabola): a fast, decreasing-radius right-hand turn.

The cars sprint down, up, down and up again to two left-handers of approximately equal speed called 'Vierkant' (square). The final straight the drivers to start-finish level, through an unnamed left-hand kink. The final corner, 'De galg' (the gallows), is a slow, short left leading down, immediately followed by an increasing-speed right-hander, which takes the track back to the main straight.

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