What is Aston Martin up to? - Page 3

ss_collins · 30 Dec 2007, 19:46 (Ref:2096707)

not its not... theres a new Impreza due too. And the small matter of F1, could be anything. But it would be nice if it was Aston.

aeroehl · 30 Dec 2007, 19:47 (Ref:2096711)

Sorry, what is the NEC?

The359 · 30 Dec 2007, 19:47 (Ref:2096712)

There's also a Vantage GT2 yet to be unveiled, although I'd assume they'd announce both at the same time.

SALEEN S7R · 30 Dec 2007, 19:48 (Ref:2096714)

F1 plans are on hold for now I think. Yes it could be the new Impreza but the WRC is struggling right now, the Aston has to be favourite. IMO.

knighty · 30 Dec 2007, 21:10 (Ref:2096753)

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Originally Posted by aeroehl

Sorry, what is the NEC?

National Exhibition Centre in Birmingham UK, its where the Autosport show takes place every early January.....organised by the Autosport magazine.....its the biggest and most significant UK motorsports exhibition.

minimangler · 31 Dec 2007, 01:46 (Ref:2096869)

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Originally Posted by knighty

National Exhibition Centre in Birmingham UK, its where the Autosport show takes place every early January.....organised by the Autosport magazine.....its the biggest and most significant UK motorsports exhibition.

As you can tell by the prices...you can go to the show, but you won't eat for a month.

Why are we ASSUMING that Aston will make this P1? Just playing devil's advocate, but it could be anyone!

Speed-King · 31 Dec 2007, 02:30 (Ref:2096888)

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Originally Posted by minimangler

As you can tell by the prices...you can go to the show, but you won't eat for a month.

Why are we ASSUMING that Aston will make this P1? Just playing devil's advocate, but it could be anyone!

because rdjones (at least I think it was him) got an email saying: Lola Coupe V12 ...

The359 · 31 Dec 2007, 02:36 (Ref:2096890)

Which means only Aston Martin, Maserati, Ferrari, or Lamborghini. The last three aren't likely at all, which leaves just Aston Martin. And they already have a historic connection to Lola, especially in coupes.

I believe Lola also played a part in the old Nimrods.

SALEEN S7R · 31 Dec 2007, 02:48 (Ref:2096891)

Well there does seem to be a lot of factors pointing towards Aston Martin, lets just hope that it is Aston Martin or indeed any manufacturer.

**Bentley03** · 31 Dec 2007, 06:59 (Ref:2096961)

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Originally Posted by The359

I believe Lola also played a part in the old Nimrods.

The Nimrods were based on the T70 chassis.

**Bentley03** · 31 Dec 2007, 07:15 (Ref:2096964)

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Originally Posted by Bentley03

The Nimrods were based on the T70 chassis.

Interesting, 'Wikipedia' would suggest otherwise. I'd always understood the Nimrod to have far closer links to the T70.

Dani Filth · 31 Dec 2007, 07:26 (Ref:2096967)

the T70 seems to be an old chassis to base an 80s cars on. if it's not Porsche that is ...

David L · 31 Dec 2007, 14:22 (Ref:2097092)

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Originally Posted by Bentley03

The Nimrods were based on the T70 chassis.

I think you may be confusing the Lola Aston Martins of the late 60's with the Nimrods of the early 80's.. The former were, essentially, Mk1 T70's with Aston engines.. 2 or 3 built.. The Nimrods were proto Gp C chassis' built on the lola T600 chassis.. The engines were the same Aston V8's

**Bentley03** · 31 Dec 2007, 16:40 (Ref:2097153)

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Originally Posted by David L

I think you may be confusing the Lola Aston Martins of the late 60's with the Nimrods of the early 80's.. The former were, essentially, Mk1 T70's with Aston engines.. 2 or 3 built.. The Nimrods were proto Gp C chassis' built on the lola T600 chassis.. The engines were the same Aston V8's

Well, you may be right, but my understanding has always been that Eric Broadley based his design for the T385 on the T70.

rdjones · 31 Dec 2007, 17:01 (Ref:2097160)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

because rdjones (at least I think it was him) got an email saying: Lola Coupe V12 ...

That is correct, my source is very much in the know.

Nordic · 31 Dec 2007, 17:56 (Ref:2097197)

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Originally Posted by David L

I think you may be confusing the Lola Aston Martins of the late 60's with the Nimrods of the early 80's.. The former were, essentially, Mk1 T70's with Aston engines.. 2 or 3 built.. The Nimrods were proto Gp C chassis' built on the lola T600 chassis.. The engines were the same Aston V8's

Pretty sure the Nimrod shared only a small amount in design terms with either car. It was not as simple as a Lola T600 with an Aston motor dropped in, and would be closer to the T70 in concept than the T600 series

It was a great effort, I think James Hunt may have driven the car on its press debut at Goodwood. Shame he never drove it in a race, as I think it would have raised its profile a bit and may have helped to generate much needed cash. The cars made a terrific sound looked great.

Its interesting when you read the Wikipedia site that the EMKA car is reported as the European factory team. As that is clearly wrong I would not rely to much on the info given there.

The359 · 31 Dec 2007, 23:41 (Ref:2097305)

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Originally Posted by Nordic

Its interesting when you read the Wikipedia site that the EMKA car is reported as the European factory team. As that is clearly wrong I would not rely to much on the info given there.

That would actually be my mistake as I wrote the article. I meant to imply that EMKA raced solely in WSC/Europe, while Nimrod Racing moved to IMSA/North America.

Jonerz · 1 Jan 2008, 03:51 (Ref:2097392)

Is this too much of a diversion from the topic at hand?

Chris

rdjones · 1 Jan 2008, 15:04 (Ref:2097581)

There maybe a little twist in the story here, I have just had a further e-mail from my contact who tells that this car might not be for a manufacturer but it might be for a team who raced in LMP1 last year....

**Bentley03** · 1 Jan 2008, 15:11 (Ref:2097583)

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Originally Posted by rdjones

There maybe a little twist in the story here, I have just had a further e-mail from my contact who tells that this car might not be for a manufacturer but it might be for a team who raced in LMP1 last year....

Charouz, for example?

Nordic · 1 Jan 2008, 15:30 (Ref:2097588)

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Originally Posted by rdjones

There maybe a little twist in the story here, I have just had a further e-mail from my contact who tells that this car might not be for a manufacturer but it might be for a team who raced in LMP1 last year....

Bit confused now,

Do you mean the car Lola are supposed to be making for Prodrive, so Prodrive could slot in an Aston motor and call an Aston DBR-P1 (or whatever) and race themselves, could in fact be going from Lola to Prodrive then onto another team, (maybe Charouz) to race with or without an Aston engine?

Or is it going to bypass Prodrive and then it wouold become 'just' another prototype and have nothing to do with Aston or Prodrive.

**Bentley03** · 1 Jan 2008, 15:42 (Ref:2097596)

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Originally Posted by Nordic

Bit confused now,

Do you mean the car Lola are supposed to be making for Prodrive, so Prodrive could slot in an Aston motor and call an Aston DBR-P1 (or whatever) and race themselves, could in fact be going from Lola to Prodrive then onto another team, (maybe Charouz) to race with or without an Aston engine?

Or is it going to bypass Prodrive and then it wouold become 'just' another prototype and have nothing to do with Aston or Prodrive.

I think the suggestion is that this would be an 'engine deal' for an existing LMP1 team (either leased, like the Audi/Swiss Spirit deal or a full works backed/funded deal along the lines of the Creation/Aim deal).

Zytek_Fan · 1 Jan 2008, 19:25 (Ref:2097687)

Knowing Prodrive, they would probably heavily modify their Lola chassis

broadrun96 · 1 Jan 2008, 20:37 (Ref:2097708)

Or take the Acura route of starting with the Lola base and modifying to suit the engine and then include a few exterior cues of the AM street cars. Hoping it is the announcement, when is the Autosport show?

David L · 1 Jan 2008, 20:43 (Ref:2097712)

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Originally Posted by Bentley03

Well, you may be right, but my understanding has always been that Eric Broadley based his design for the T385 on the T70.

No, the T385 (the Nimrod Chassis) was based on the, then current, T600..

This is reasonably well documented and I have quickly checked two published reference sources since writing my original post..

The T70 link seems to be that various people likened the project, at the time, to it being an "update" of the works Astons of 1967, which were, as we know, basically the works T70's.. But it was the project iyself which was being likened to the T70, not the actual car itself..

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