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Old 5 Jul 2017, 14:11 (Ref:3749109)   #51
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Officiating in Argentine touring car racing is complicated. No matter if they are too soft or too hard, people will complain. Anyway, the big problem is consistency.
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Races in Argentina are tough, nobody keeps saving. And I really like it. Rules are a bit aleatory sometimes, but it's still good.
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This weekend, the Turismo Nacional joins the FIA WTCC at Termas de RÃ*o Hondo.

Notable drivers include:

1 Emanuel Moriatis (Ford)
68 Mariano Werner (Fiat)
5 Jonatan Castellano (Chevrolet)
82 Mauricio Lambiris (Ford)
15 Carlos Okulovich (Ford)
2 Leonel PernÃ*a (Honda)
6 Fabián Yannantuoni (Peugeot)
12 Facundo Chapur (Peugeot)
28 Ernesto Bessone (Toyota)
116 Christian Ledesma (Citroën)
51 Tomás Urretavizcaya (Kia)
115 Norberto Fontana (Chevrolet)
26 Guillermo Ortelli (Chevrolet)
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Old 13 Jul 2017, 16:52 (Ref:3750956)   #54
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any plans for the Chevrolet teams to introduce the new model cruze?
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The new Cruze debuted in Super TC2000 in 2016. The old one is not for sale. Still, not sure if they will replace it in Turismo Nacional.
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Julián Santero scored the pole with 1'55.4, versus 1'43.0 by Catsburg.

Mind that the TN are old-school production-based cars.
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Julián Santero (Peugeot) won the Turismo Nacional race at Termas de RÃ*o Hondo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI0XCi_cnyo
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The Turismo Nacional and Top Race usually race the same weekend, except in July. Therefore, the (non-Super) TC2000 hosted a two-driver race at Buenos Aires, won by Marinao PernÃ*a and Facundo Ardusso. Other guests included Emiliano Spataro, Bernardo Llaver, Ricardo Risatti, Diego Azar, Josito di Palma, Augusto Scalbi and Humberto Krujoski.

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when are toprace going to introduce the new generation of cars?
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The Top Race muscle car project is scheduled for 2018.

http://corsaonline.com.ar/articulo/6...anca-el-cambio

He is choosing an V8 engine provider, it could be Oreca.

He claims that the cost will be US$ 20k per race, versus US$ 40k for Turismo Carretera.
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200 km BUenos Aires drivers:

Renault Sportteam

o- Emiliano Spataro / Christian Ledesma
o- Josito di Palma / Valdeno Brito (Stock Car Brasil)
o- Germán Sirvent / MartÃ*n Coulleri

Renault Ambroggio

o- Leonel PernÃ*a / Julián Santero
o- Ricardo Risatti / Facundo Ardusso
o- Ignacio Julián / Manuel Luque

Toyota

o- MatÃ*as Rossi / José MarÃ*a López
o- Gabriel Ponce de León / Norberto Fontana
o- MatÃ*as Milla / Rafael Morgenstern
o- Bruno Etman / José Montalto (Toyota Costa Rica)
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Nascar Mexico drivers Ricardo Pérez de Lara and Rubén Rovelo want to race at the 200 km de Buenos Aires.

The Super TC2000 race at Oberá will start in an hour.
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I still can't get over the fact you guys put two drivers in a car for a 200km race.
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Julián Santero (Peugeot) won the Turismo Nacional race at Termas de RÃ*o Hondo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI0XCi_cnyo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx62Ne3hmSQ

The Turismo Nacional and Top Race usually race the same weekend, except in July. Therefore, the (non-Super) TC2000 hosted a two-driver race at Buenos Aires, won by Marinao PernÃ*a and Facundo Ardusso. Other guests included Emiliano Spataro, Bernardo Llaver, Ricardo Risatti, Diego Azar, Josito di Palma, Augusto Scalbi and Humberto Krujoski.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=389RPNPvmRk
It took some time but finally watched all series and finals of class 2 and 3. Great racing in both classes. Better than WTCC. Nice to see the small class 2 cars drift in the corners. Shame there were almost no spectators.

Argentina is paradise for touring car fans!
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The Top Race muscle car project is scheduled for 2018.

http://corsaonline.com.ar/articulo/6...anca-el-cambio

He is choosing an V8 engine provider, it could be Oreca.

He claims that the cost will be US$ 20k per race, versus US$ 40k for Turismo Carretera.
The chassis is same or new developed?
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I still can't get over the fact you guys put two drivers in a car for a 200km race.
In the past they did put two drivers in a car at the same time.
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Nascar Mexico drivers Ricardo Pérez de Lara and Rubén Rovelo want to race at the 200 km de Buenos Aires.

The Super TC2000 race at Oberá will start in an hour.
Obera race1:
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I still can't get over the fact you guys put two drivers in a car for a 200km race.
Pirelli World Challenge SPrint-X and Blancpain GT Sprint have two drivers for 60 minute races...
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The chassis is same or new developed?
No idea.
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Pirelli World Challenge SPrint-X and Blancpain GT Sprint have two drivers for 60 minute races...
Yeah, but they're not a marquee event and in the case of PWC, the drivers hate it.
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Peugeot announced their guest drivers for the 200 km Buenos Aires: Mariano Altuna, Carlos Okulovich, Franco Girolami and MatÃ*as RodrÃ*guez. However, each team is required to include a foreign driver, so...

In Top Race, Josito di Palma and Juan Manuel "Pato" Silva will return to drive for Mercedes-Benz.
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Yes, will be all new cars with V8 engines. The cars will be Lexus RCF, Dodge Challenger, Chevy Camaro and Ford Mustang.

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Are they going to use Argentinian-made chassis or is this another offshot of the Howe TA2-cars?
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