FF1600 Lap Record List

[kipper]

Originally Posted by barnettracing

Does someone have Kirkistown's LR. I vaguely remember reading that either McCullough or McMullan broke it either this year or last year, but I could be making that up!

According to a story on Kirkistown's website, Ivor McCullough broke the FF1600 lap record in 2011; however, the story does not mention a meeting or time. From going through the Northern Irish championship results, it would appear that McCullough's fastest time over the season was 1:01.076, set in a Van Diemen RF00 on the 26th March.

[barnettracing]

Kipper, thank you. I knew it was recently. I will put that lap time into the list; it can always be changed.

[barnettracing]

Latest list:

Circuit	Driver	Car	Lap Time	Date	Tyres
Anglesey Coastal	Scott Malvern	Ray GRS08	1m11.179s	04/06/2009	Avon
Anglesey International	Scott Malvern	Ray GRS08	1m33.028s	05/06/2009	Avon
Brands Hatch Indy	Ivor McCullough	Van Diemen RF00	49.964s	17/10/2010	Avon
Brands Hatch GP	Peter Dempsey	Swift SC92	1m36.542s	24/09/2005	Avon
Cadwell Park	Peter Dempsey	Swift SC92	1m32.350s	07/08/2005	Avon
Castle Combe	Josh Fisher	Mygale SJ03	1m10.511s	24/03/2008	Avon
Croft	Neil Boardman	Van Diemen RF91	1m29.590s	24/09/2005	Avon
Croix-en-Ternois	-
Donington Park National	John Murphy	Van Diemen RF90	1m15.348s	15/05/2011	Avon
Donington Park International	-
Kirkistown	Ivor McCullough	Van Diemen RF00	1m01.076s	26/03/2011	Avon
Knockhill	Graham Carroll	Van Diemen RF92	54.617s	14/09/2008	Avon
Lydden	-
Mallory Park	Jamie Spence	Swift SC92	47.780s	23/08/1992	Dunlop
Mondello Park International	Scott Malvern	Ray GRS08	1m47.495s	12/09/2009	Avon
Oulton Park Fosters	Mark Chadwick	Van Diemen RF04	1m04.570s	31/03/2007	Avon
Oulton Park Island	Jordan Skinner	Ray GRK10	1m30.594s	26/04/2010	Avon
Oulton Park International	Gavin Wills	Van Diemen RF00	1m47.327s	11/10/2008	Avon
Pembrey	-
Rockingham ISSCC	Mark Williams	Reynard 92FF	1m29.952s	23/06/2007	Avon
Silverstone National	Neville Smyth	Ray GR07	1m02.305s	04/11/2007	Avon
Silverstone Arena GP	David Wild	Lola T200	2m21.901s	15/05/2011	Avon
Snetterton 200	Stuart Kestenbaum	Van Diemen RF79	1m22.522s	07/05/2011	Avon
Snetterton 300	Benn Simms	Alexis Mk14	2m07.274s	12/06/2011	Avon
Thruxton	Ed Moore	Van Diemen RF00	1m22.955s	28/06/2009	Avon

• Kirkistown added
• Anglesey National removed; set a dangerous precedent.
• Tyre manufacturer listed

Scott Malvern leads the way with 3 lap records, closely followed by Peter Dempsey and Ivor McCullough on 2. The most successful car is the Van Diemen RF00 with 4 lap records, followed by the Ray GRS08.

I'm glad everyone is finding this interesting.

[ghinzani]

Does anyone know who holds the proper Combe record from before they changed it? Vergers or Goosens I would wager, with my money leaning towards Vergers in the black bomber.

[barnettracing]

Originally Posted by ghinzani

Does anyone know who holds the proper Combe record from before they changed it? Vergers or Goosens I would wager, with my money leaning towards Vergers in the black bomber.

Pre-chicanes it was Nigel Greensall in a Tyrrell 022: 50.59s on 25/08/97.

Post-chicanes it is Dan Clarke from the 2005 BF3/GT meeting.

[ghinzani]

Originally Posted by barnettracing

Pre-chicanes it was Nigel Greensall in a Tyrrell 022: 50.59s on 25/08/97.

Post-chicanes it is Dan Clarke from the 2005 BF3/GT meeting.

Sorry I meant in a proper car

[barnettracing]

Ah, it was Goosens, but it got beaten by Gavin Wills in the 1998 (or 97?) Carnival. Probably a mid to high 1m03s.

[andrewc]

Whilst it's been mentioned, Monoposto cars are often slightly tweaked in terms of standard spec, but here is the list of Mono 1600 lap records.

http://www.monoposto.co.uk/results/l...ords-mono1600/

[marblerun]

For Lydden, you may have to go back as far as David Hardisty in the Astrarech / BARC FF1600 - best I have seen is 43.6 Van Diemen RF90 10/09/95.

[secomposites]

I have a 43.5 lap at lydden back in '97 but i think the record is 43.3. I'll dig through some old lap charts if i can find them. Pretty sure the 43.3 was Neale Blunden in a Reynard, early '97 Kent County round.

[paddy]

I'd be interested to know how the average speeds compare if anyone has that. Would have thought Thruxton fastest with Mallory up there as well.

[Simon Hadfield]

About Mallory, when the back of the exit kerb at the Esses was removed the circuit lost about 2 tenths on a like for like basis, the previous ability to straighten up earlier carried more revs into the Hairpin. With a historic FF the time dropped from 49.6 to 49.8. The recent resurfacing made the circuit incredibly fast for a short time - 49.0 in a historic (!) but it seemed to have settled back through the year, except the new surface seems more affected by outside influences - ambient temperature, drifting, motorcycle racing, oil etc - than the old surface was

[ianpearson]

Originally Posted by Simon Hadfield

About Mallory, when the back of the exit kerb at the Esses was removed the circuit lost about 2 tenths on a like for like basis, the previous ability to straighten up earlier carried more revs into the Hairpin. With a historic FF the time dropped from 49.6 to 49.8. The recent resurfacing made the circuit incredibly fast for a short time - 49.0 in a historic (!) but it seemed to have settled back through the year, except the new surface seems more affected by outside influences - ambient temperature, drifting, motorcycle racing, oil etc - than the old surface was

Totally aggree with that, you used to able to run the whole car over the kerb on the left of the esses, now its so narrow and aggressive you can barley use it all. Can you remember when it was removed? had a feeling it was still there in 2009

[diz]

Originally Posted by Simon Hadfield

About Mallory, when the back of the exit kerb at the Esses was removed the circuit lost about 2 tenths on a like for like basis, the previous ability to straighten up earlier carried more revs into the Hairpin. With a historic FF the time dropped from 49.6 to 49.8. The recent resurfacing made the circuit incredibly fast for a short time - 49.0 in a historic (!) but it seemed to have settled back through the year, except the new surface seems more affected by outside influences - ambient temperature, drifting, motorcycle racing, oil etc - than the old surface was

Thanks Simon for backing up what I was referring to in post #25
If there is a difference at Mallory, surely these types of differences would apply at all circuits.

[Clive Brown]

Originally Posted by ianpearson

Totally aggree with that, you used to able to run the whole car over the kerb on the left of the esses, now its so narrow and aggressive you can barley use it all. Can you remember when it was removed? had a feeling it was still there in 2009

Surely if you go to Mallory, you go to race at Mallory, and not merely at those parts of the circuit that happen to suit you? I'd replace kerbs with vertical concrete walls, thus forcing drivers to stay on the designated path.

The late Tony Lanfranchi always used to state that the best way to prevent accidents at Paddock Bend at Brands Hatch would have been to install horizontal pointed steel spikes facing outwards towards the tarmaced racing surface; I'm not sure he was wrong.

[diz]

Originally Posted by Clive Brown

The late Tony Lanfranchi always used to state that the best way to prevent accidents at Paddock Bend at Brands Hatch would have been to install horizontal pointed steel spikes facing outwards towards the tarmaced racing surface; I'm not sure he was wrong.

Exactly the same thing that Richard Peacock used to say about curbing bravery at Aintree's Country Corner. He still uses the same line today about 'too brave drivers' at many corners on many circuits.

[NoelR]

Originally Posted by kipper

According to a story on Kirkistown's website, Ivor McCullough broke the FF1600 lap record in 2011; however, the story does not mention a meeting or time. From going through the Northern Irish championship results, it would appear that McCullough's fastest time over the season was 1:01.076, set in a Van Diemen RF00 on the 26th March.

Josh, This is correct.

[barnettracing]

Originally Posted by NoelR

Josh, This is correct.

Cheers Noel. Thanks for the confirmation.

[kipper]

A quick thought about circuits that could be included within the list: both Phoenix Park and Bishopscourt are provisionally scheduled to hold race meetings in 2012. I've no idea regarding lap records for either venue though...

[NoelR]

Josh,
The Kirkistown lap record can be updated. Jonny McMullan broke the record today with a time of 1:01.023.

[barnettracing]

Cheers Noel, I'll do it tomorrow when I have my computer at hand. Congratulations to Jonny, what car was he in?

[SAMD]

Originally Posted by barnettracing

Cheers Noel, I'll do it tomorrow when I have my computer at hand. Congratulations to Jonny, what car was he in?

'89 Mondial. As far as I can see John Stewart broke the pre '87 record as well with a 62.8 something in an 84 Reynard. Both cars prepared and run by John Harris.

[barnettracing]

Cheers SAMD.

McMullan's lap record has now been added to the updated list. If anyone can confirm Thruxton for me before this June's Ian Taylor Trophy that'd be brilliant. Pat Blakeney sometimes posts on here (VectorPat?) so maybe he could help...

Circuit	Driver	Car	Lap Time	Date	Tyres
Anglesey Coastal	Scott Malvern	Ray GRS08	1m11.179s	04/06/2009	Avon
Anglesey International	Scott Malvern	Ray GRS08	1m33.028s	05/06/2009	Avon
Brands Hatch Indy	Ivor McCullough	Van Diemen RF00	49.964s	17/10/2010	Avon
Brands Hatch GP	Peter Dempsey	Swift SC92	1m36.542s	24/09/2005	Avon
Cadwell Park	Peter Dempsey	Swift SC92	1m32.350s	07/08/2005	Avon
Castle Combe	Josh Fisher	Mygale SJ03	1m10.511s	24/03/2008	Avon
Croft	Neil Boardman	Van Diemen RF91	1m29.590s	24/09/2005	Avon
Croix-en-Ternois	-
Donington Park National	John Murphy	Van Diemen RF90	1m15.348s	15/05/2011	Avon
Donington Park International	-
Kirkistown	Jonny McMullan	Mondial M89	1m01.023s	31/03/2012	Avon
Knockhill	Graham Carroll	Van Diemen RF92	54.617s	14/09/2008	Avon
Lydden	-
Mallory Park	Jamie Spence	Swift SC92	47.780s	23/08/1992	Dunlop
Mondello Park International	Scott Malvern	Ray GRS08	1m47.495s	12/09/2009	Avon
Oulton Park Fosters	Mark Chadwick	Van Diemen RF04	1m04.570s	31/03/2007	Avon
Oulton Park Island	Jordan Skinner	Ray GRK10	1m30.594s	26/04/2010	Avon
Oulton Park International	Gavin Wills	Van Diemen RF00	1m47.327s	11/10/2008	Avon
Pembrey	-
Rockingham ISSCC	Mark Williams	Reynard 92FF	1m29.952s	23/06/2007	Avon
Silverstone National	Neville Smyth	Ray GR07	1m02.305s	04/11/2007	Avon
Silverstone Arena GP	David Wild	Lola T200	2m21.901s	15/05/2011	Avon
Snetterton 200	Stuart Kestenbaum	Van Diemen RF79	1m22.522s	07/05/2011	Avon
Snetterton 300	Benn Simms	Alexis Mk14	2m07.274s	12/06/2011	Avon
Thruxton	Ed Moore	Van Diemen RF00	1m22.955s	28/06/2009	Avon

[FA73]

Hi Josh,

I have an update for your list regarding the Snetterton 200 record.

We had a Classic FF1600 Double Header this weekend and 5 Drivers went under the old record with Mike Gardner recording a 1min 21.121 on Saturday 7th April 2012 in a Van Diemen RF80.

Regards
Andrew Smith

[barnettracing]

Cheers Andrew.

Here is the updated table with the new Snetterton 200 lap record.

Circuit	Driver	Car	Lap Time	Date	Tyres
Anglesey Coastal	Scott Malvern	Ray GRS08	1m11.179s	04/06/2009	Avon
Anglesey International	Scott Malvern	Ray GRS08	1m33.028s	05/06/2009	Avon
Brands Hatch Indy	Ivor McCullough	Van Diemen RF00	49.964s	17/10/2010	Avon
Brands Hatch GP	Peter Dempsey	Swift SC92	1m36.542s	24/09/2005	Avon
Cadwell Park	Peter Dempsey	Swift SC92	1m32.350s	07/08/2005	Avon
Castle Combe	Josh Fisher	Mygale SJ03	1m10.511s	24/03/2008	Avon
Croft	Neil Boardman	Van Diemen RF91	1m29.590s	24/09/2005	Avon
Croix-en-Ternois	-
Donington Park National	John Murphy	Van Diemen RF90	1m15.348s	15/05/2011	Avon
Donington Park International	-
Kirkistown	Jonny McMullan	Mondial M89	1m01.023s	31/03/2012	Avon
Knockhill	Graham Carroll	Van Diemen RF92	54.617s	14/09/2008	Avon
Lydden	-
Mallory Park	Jamie Spence	Swift SC92	47.780s	23/08/1992	Dunlop
Mondello Park International	Scott Malvern	Ray GRS08	1m47.495s	12/09/2009	Avon
Oulton Park Fosters	Mark Chadwick	Van Diemen RF04	1m04.570s	31/03/2007	Avon
Oulton Park Island	Jordan Skinner	Ray GRK10	1m30.594s	26/04/2010	Avon
Oulton Park International	Gavin Wills	Van Diemen RF00	1m47.327s	11/10/2008	Avon
Pembrey	-
Rockingham ISSCC	Mark Williams	Reynard 92FF	1m29.952s	23/06/2007	Avon
Silverstone National	Neville Smyth	Ray GR07	1m02.305s	04/11/2007	Avon
Silverstone Arena GP	David Wild	Lola T200	2m21.901s	15/05/2011	Avon
Snetterton 200	Mike Gardner	Van Diemen RF80	1m21.121s	07/04/2012	Avon
Snetterton 300	Benn Simms	Alexis Mk14	2m07.274s	12/06/2011	Avon
Thruxton	Ed Moore	Van Diemen RF00	1m22.955s	28/06/2009	Avon

How many more lap records can be broken in 2012?