BTCC Races 16, 17 & 18 - Snetterton, Norfolk - 2nd August 2009 - Page 3

Hazard · 2 Aug 2009, 16:26 (Ref:2514032)

Arena are a great squad - but something's just gone wrong this season, that boxy Ford just isn't turning out to be a good race car.

Can't tell if it's the car, the team, or the drivers. I know what I think.

Hazard · 2 Aug 2009, 16:33 (Ref:2514036)

Very late release by the safety car - nearly a repeat of the WTCC Pau incident.

6 laps to go, and James Nash leads!

He'll be under massive pressure from Turkington though.

Super Hans · 2 Aug 2009, 16:33 (Ref:2514038)

I was hoping Owy was on for another podium but he seemed to get taken by surprise when the SC came out.

Hazard · 2 Aug 2009, 16:34 (Ref:2514040)

In-line with the ITV coverage, we bring you this.

Hazard · 2 Aug 2009, 16:35 (Ref:2514042)

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Originally Posted by Super Hans

I was hoping Owy was on for another podium but he seemed to get taken by surprise when the SC came out.

He's still 3rd.

Super Hans · 2 Aug 2009, 16:36 (Ref:2514043)

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Originally Posted by Hazard

He's still 3rd.

Wow.

Was he allowed to re-take his position then? Brilliant.

Hepatic · 2 Aug 2009, 16:37 (Ref:2514044)

got the turns wrong but carnage as predicted. i can see Nash being DQ'd for that nudge on Collard, shame cos i'd love to see him get a win

redshoes · 2 Aug 2009, 16:39 (Ref:2514046)

If Nash holds on at the re-start do you think he'll be allowed to keep the win?

Sodemo · 2 Aug 2009, 16:39 (Ref:2514047)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hazard

In-line with the ITV coverage, we bring you this.

He looks about 40 in that.

Will Nash get a penalty for his tap on Collard?

Hazard · 2 Aug 2009, 16:41 (Ref:2514049)

Can he do it? Rookie win???

Super Hans · 2 Aug 2009, 16:46 (Ref:2514054)

Quote:

Originally Posted by redshoes

If Nash holds on at the re-start do you think he'll be allowed to keep the win?

I would hope so.

The incident with Collard was 50/50, in my opinion.

redshoes · 2 Aug 2009, 16:48 (Ref:2514056)

I assume O'Neiil flat-spotted his tyres avoiding the SC accident as he seemed to lose so much pace on the re-start.

richrad smith · 2 Aug 2009, 16:49 (Ref:2514057)

James Nash

great result from the youngster

in his debut season

Super Hans · 2 Aug 2009, 16:50 (Ref:2514058)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

I assume O'Neiil flat-spotted his tyres avoiding the SC accident as he seemed to lose so much pace on the re-start.

Either that or he damaged his splitter or radiator rear-ending Turks. It was disappointing really.

Tim Wilkinson · 2 Aug 2009, 16:54 (Ref:2514060)

Question - is it professional, or even allowable (blue flags?) for a lapped driver, out of the points, to get involved in a points battle by driving as if he was fighting for position?

And well done James Nash

. A racing incident with Collard - seemed to be the same cause as Owy (a good day for him, pleasingly) holding up Thommo, just Thommo has more experience and backed off and lost himself a place rather than keeping foot in.

Hepatic · 2 Aug 2009, 16:55 (Ref:2514061)

if jonny neil got done for hitting plato then nash should for collard. be interesting to see if they do, or are we then going to start talking about bias towards chevrolet?

either way its good to see a new boy up top even if it might not stay that way

redshoes · 2 Aug 2009, 17:08 (Ref:2514066)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hepatic

if jonny neil got done for hitting plato then nash should for collard.

Having thought about it, I suspect he will be allowed to keep the win but get a fine and/or points on his licence, same as Plato got for taking out Neal at Croft. If Collard had been spun out but recovered to 2nd the positions would have been reversed but DQing Nash only hands a more points to Turkington which isn't really fair.

**touringlegend** · 2 Aug 2009, 17:10 (Ref:2514069)

No that was a racing incident and I'll be dissapointed if the result is changed. What is a driver meant to do when a car starts creeping across in front of you? Slow down or steer on to the grass? Don't think so, keep your foot planted. It's just unfortunate it had the outcome of badly damaging two BMW's.

Has it been confirmed it was Mr Chilton who layed the oil down all the way to the Esses? That was nice of him.

**touringlegend** · 2 Aug 2009, 17:12 (Ref:2514070)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

Having thought about it, I suspect he will be allowed to keep the win but get a fine and/or points on his licence, same as Plato got for taking out Neal at Croft. If Collard had been spun out but recovered to 2nd the positions would have been reversed but DQing Nash only hands a more points to Turkington which isn't really fair.

You old cynic!

Or you know the BTCC too well...

Hazard · 2 Aug 2009, 17:16 (Ref:2514073)

Quote:

Originally Posted by redshoes

Having thought about it, I suspect he will be allowed to keep the win but get a fine and/or points on his licence, same as Plato got for taking out Neal at Croft. If Collard had been spun out but recovered to 2nd the positions would have been reversed but DQing Nash only hands a more points to Turkington which isn't really fair.

Or doesn't keep the championship as close as Gow likes it.

It's a bit of a fluky result anyway, but that's what these reverse grids are for.

Great win for James - championship has now swung towards a Gio vs. Turkington affair a bit, with Neal and Plato falling back quite a bit.

Show's how many points there are in a weekend though - it's far from over.

Super Hans · 2 Aug 2009, 17:44 (Ref:2514083)

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Originally Posted by Hepatic

if jonny neil got done for hitting plato then nash should for collard.

Johnny Who?

Hazard · 2 Aug 2009, 17:56 (Ref:2514085)

Collard has been taken to hospital following the crash

http://btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=1581

Super Hans · 2 Aug 2009, 18:13 (Ref:2514091)

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Originally Posted by Hazard

Collard has been taken to hospital following the crash

http://btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=1581

Aye, he seemed to bit in a bit of discomfort. Hopefully there are no major injuries.

Craner Curves · 2 Aug 2009, 19:09 (Ref:2514113)

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Originally Posted by touringlegend

No that was a racing incident and I'll be dissapointed if the result is changed. What is a driver meant to do when a car starts creeping across in front of you? Slow down or steer on to the grass? Don't think so, keep your foot planted. It's just unfortunate it had the outcome of badly damaging two BMW's.

To be fair though, Nash did knock him offline entering the right hander at the Esses, meaning he had to come across more to defend from him and the resulting incident occurred.

redshoes · 2 Aug 2009, 19:29 (Ref:2514125)

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Originally Posted by touringlegend

You old cynic!

Oi, less of the old

It's a serious point though - Turkington, Giovanardi, etc should not benefit from another driver's penalty resulting from an incident they had nothing to do with.

Of course whether Nash actual deserves a penalty is another matter. It might have resulted in a lot of damage but it was a relatively minor initial impact.

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