Rules Proposals to "improve" the 2010 F1 season - Page 3

Knowlesy · 6 Jan 2010, 16:21 (Ref:2608963)

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Originally Posted by Marbot

Normally it just gave the guys who were in front the chance to get even further ahead. The guys who had the best cars in qualifying were then able to have the best cars in the race.

So it was the same as it is now then? OK.

It always strikes me that you are against two things that provide a bit of interest, free reign of setup and tyre variety (we need three manufacturers). I have no option but to conclude you are Max Mosley.

Marbot · 6 Jan 2010, 16:36 (Ref:2608972)

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Originally Posted by Knowlesy

So it was the same as it is now then? OK.

It always strikes me that you are against two things that provide a bit of interest, free reign of setup and tyre variety (we need three manufacturers). I have no option but to conclude you are Max Mosley.

I agree that we need more than two tyre manufacturers to provide some proper variation, and it wouldn't bother me at all if the teams built seperate cars for qualifying and the race as long as they managed it within a budget. In fact it wouldn't bother me how they won a race as long as they did it within a budget.

And No! I am not Max Mosley!

Sodemo · 6 Jan 2010, 16:43 (Ref:2608975)

I think one tyre is fine, however what I would have liked is for wider rear tyres with a larger diameter also.

Just give them a soft, medium and hard compound to choose from and let them race.

Knowlesy · 6 Jan 2010, 17:20 (Ref:2608992)

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Originally Posted by Marbot

I agree that we need more than two tyre manufacturers to provide some proper variation, and it wouldn't bother me at all if the teams built seperate cars for qualifying and the race as long as they managed it within a budget. In fact it wouldn't bother me how they won a race as long as they did it within a budget.

And No! I am not Max Mosley!

Peralta · 7 Jan 2010, 05:42 (Ref:2609254)

1. More comments from drivers and pit crew during the race
2. Educate TV director to replay ALL passes during races that are not caught first time out live.
3. Get rid of grid penalties all together and finedrivers instead or have points taken away from their championship.
4. Less use of safety car especially during the rain and especially at the start of a race.
5. Get rid of pitstops all together and force drivers to pass on the track
6. Less run off area so that drivers can respect the track
7. Get rid of Valencia GP, Turkey GP, even Barcelona GP which always seem to be boring races
8. More driver interviews (those that didn't finish) during the race
9. More shots of beautiful women instead of that Hamilton guy in McLaren pitbox
10. Cheaper tickets !!!!!!!!!!!

Splatz the Cow · 7 Jan 2010, 10:51 (Ref:2609354)

Improve F1?

Don't allow Schumacher to return. It's like returning to an ex with a borderline personality disorder and egomaniacal tendacies - ya just don't do it.

rayburn · 7 Jan 2010, 13:51 (Ref:2609473)

Please, please can we have an ejector seat for J. Legard, preferably to be operated by me by remote control.

csirl · 7 Jan 2010, 14:16 (Ref:2609500)

Should allow customer cars and anyone with a legal car should be allowed turn up and attempt to qualify for any race (through Friday pre-qual if required).

DDTuttle · 8 Jan 2010, 07:58 (Ref:2609885)

Steve Matchett had a great idea. The lack of testing is gumming up the works. Why not have a Thursday tests session like Friday's. The teams are already there, with the cars ready to go. You could sell some tickets and TV coverage and each team would have a day to try things then fix it overnight and try again on friday. Reserve drivers would get some real seat time, and the cars would be more competitive.

As for passing, its about the amount of time you have in the breaking zone, which due the 5 g breaking is vanishingly small. Trying to out brake somebody gets you up to their side pod, which is not a pass.

**Woolley** · 8 Jan 2010, 18:37 (Ref:2610119)

No mandatory pitstops, maximum of 4 people in the pit lane during pit stops.

Marbot · 8 Jan 2010, 19:20 (Ref:2610137)

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Originally Posted by Woolley

No mandatory pitstops,

Agreed.

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Originally Posted by Woolley

maximum of 4 people in the pit lane during pit stops.

I assume that's two to jack the car up and just two changing the wheels?

ECW Dan Selby · 11 Jan 2010, 12:44 (Ref:2611577)

Not sure if this has been posted but I thought this was quite nifty:

http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/

Selby

Marbot · 11 Jan 2010, 12:56 (Ref:2611585)

Very good.

Have a sneaky look at the Ferrari!

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8039/ferrari2010b.jpg

ECW Dan Selby · 11 Jan 2010, 13:03 (Ref:2611589)

Marbot, do me a favour mate, could you upload that image to here rather than an outside party? I work in a school and i'm victim of the ott filter system

Would be much appreciated!

Selby

Marbot · 11 Jan 2010, 13:33 (Ref:2611606)

Here you go!

ECW Dan Selby · 11 Jan 2010, 14:26 (Ref:2611645)

Well, the front certainly looks like a Red Bull, that's for sure.

Agggggg 'for sure'...!!! Save me!

Selby

PS - Thank you, Marbot!

**bjohnsonsmith** · 11 Jan 2010, 20:29 (Ref:2611851)

Just as well I speak Italian.

Sodemo · 11 Jan 2010, 20:45 (Ref:2611858)

So what if anything has the Formula 1 Sporting Working Group come up with to "improve the show"?

Nothing.

Fox89 · 11 Jan 2010, 20:46 (Ref:2611860)

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

So what if anything has the Formula 1 Sporting Working Group come up with to "improve the show"?

Nothing.

They've only been around for a few weeks haven't they? Give them a season...

Marbot · 11 Jan 2010, 20:51 (Ref:2611865)

Well, refuelling is banned, which for me is the single most important thing they could have done. No more hub-caps is also good, both from an aero POV and aesthetically.

But the fact that there are few changes is because change costs money and FOTA wanted a stable set of regulations and that's pretty much what they've got.

Marbot · 11 Jan 2010, 20:53 (Ref:2611869)

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Originally Posted by Fox89

They've only been around for a few weeks haven't they? Give them a season...

Not exactly! It was they who came up with the 2009 regulations.....and they 'chickened out' basicly.

Sodemo · 11 Jan 2010, 21:26 (Ref:2611894)

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Originally Posted by Marbot

Well, refuelling is banned, which for me is the single most important thing they could have done. No more hub-caps is also good, both from an aero POV and aesthetically.

But the fact that there are few changes is because change costs money and FOTA wanted a stable set of regulations and that's pretty much what they've got.

Yes, but all that was decided 6 months ago.

The date of that article was last month, which implies that they were aiming for "something else" to be introduced before the season is underway.

Marbot · 12 Jan 2010, 01:13 (Ref:2612003)

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

Yes, but all that was decided 6 months ago.

The date of that article was last month, which implies that they were aiming for "something else" to be introduced before the season is underway.

There's plenty of time left then to decide that F1 would be far more exciting with only a tiny fraction of the downforce they currently have. I won't hold my breath on that one, however.

ECW Dan Selby · 12 Jan 2010, 11:50 (Ref:2612117)

This is sort of related:

http://www.crash.net/f1/news/155904/...ts_boring.html

Interesting interview with Sutil on the current circuits on the calendar.

Selby

Sodemo · 12 Jan 2010, 16:34 (Ref:2612253)

Kinda not related, but I want to have a moan about the cars likely increase in wheelbase.

The cars are already long and thin, it my opinion that single seaters - like their sportcar cousins, should be short and wide, when actually F1 cars now have the proportions of something looking like a bus.

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