[FIA GT] GT1 mid season review

[rich07]

Originally Posted by dj4monie

If you have a less than 3 year old LCD or Plasma you can connect your laptop or build a media pc for about $300 powered by a Linux (or Net-top with Windows) build or $400 using Windows Media Center 7.

Thanks for the suggestion.

[Splatz the Cow]

Absolutely loving the GT1 series.

I'd give it 9/10.

I feel like this is the BPR series all over again, but with one main improvement; balancing of the cars performance.

Here are some of the other great things about this series:

A place to race your old millon dollar super car GT machine that has been taking up space in the garage just because it's a couple of years old.

A series where you can be competitive in that aforementioned million dollar piece of "hard rubbish", because of ongoing equalisation of performance.

A place where you can feel good that the millions of dollars you've spent over the last five years on the team isn't for nothing, because no factory team is going to come in with a car that does 2 - 3 seconds a lap faster than you. (Porsche 1996)

A place where if you have something that looks like a melted vanilla slice or block of cheese in the sun, then you can enter your Nissan GTR.



I bet the people who are happiest with this series are the ones paying for it, and driving in it.

[dj4monie]

Originally Posted by rich07

Thanks for the suggestion.

No problem and there's a nicely sized AU Windows Media Center community.

[chunterer]

The series has been well run, very entertaining and well subscribed, albeit as already mentioned bolstered by a couple of obsolete, if legendary cars.

Surprised the Ford GT and Nissan are able to compete with the hitherto big hitter GT1's and separately i'm surprised Bouchut isn't at the front of the Lambo crews, as he was standout 3 years ago?

I'm sure the performance balancing of mixing the old GT1's with the new was only seen as a temporary measure, which might have to become a bit more permanent for next year unless someone builds replacements especially for the MC12 and also perhaps for the DBR9?

Do I hear right that Alpina are building cars for the series next year? I missed that news. Presumably they are the 6 series cars?

I also hope another relatively heavyweight manufacturer endorses GT1 and enlists a specialist engineering firm to build something, hopefully Audi or Ferrari/Maserati.

Also it seems to me that GT2 is struggling and GT3 seems to have lost an awful lot of cars/entrants too. Maybe the 3 categories are taking strength away from each other?

I would add GT2 back into the GT1 series rename it 'FIA World GT' to create an even bigger field!!

It's not traditional sportscar racing but why should it be, enduro fans have got their series so now there is something in between touring cars and sportscars for us to enjoy!

[rich07]

Reading Murph's latest musings

There are rumbles that Freddie Dor is going to build another car

What could this be? Its just a rumour but considering the two GT1 racers that came before (550 & DBR9) with his involvement, it could be something special.

Ferrari 599?

[HORNDAWG]

Originally Posted by chunterer

Also it seems to me that GT2 is struggling and GT3 seems to have lost an awful lot of cars/entrants too. Maybe the 3 categories are taking strength away from each other?

GT-2 struggling? I think it is SRO who is struggling with it/them!




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[I Rosputnik]

Originally Posted by rich07

Reading Murph's latest musings



What could this be? Its just a rumour but considering the two GT1 racers that came before (550 & DBR9) with his involvement, it could be something special.

Ferrari 599?

A 599 would make a good replacement for the MC12, but I'm not sure Ferrari would give their blessing.

[Splatz the Cow]

Does GT1 appeal to women?

My sister in law loves the look of the Maserati, thinks the Lamborghini is ugly, the Nissan too big and tall, and "why aren't there any (of her favourite,) Porsches?"

The result is a yes vote from the fairer gender.

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

GT-2 struggling? I think it is SRO who is struggling with it/them!




L.P.

Well as far as I can tell the only GT2 cars available that are any good right now are the 430, 997, C6 and M3?

Hardly any more variety than GT1.

[HORNDAWG]

Originally Posted by chunterer

Well as far as I can tell the only GT2 cars available that are any good right now are the 430, 997, C6 and M3?

Hardly any more variety than GT1.

In the aspect that there is a limited pool of chassis mfgs, I would agree. That however is not new, nor an indication, "that GT-2 is struggling" as put forth.






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[rich07]

Originally Posted by I Rosputnik

A 599 would make a good replacement for the MC12, but I'm not sure Ferrari would give their blessing.

Ferrari didnt give their blessing to the Prodrive 550 and history shows how well the factory blessed 575 went down...............

[dj4monie]

Originally Posted by rich07

Ferrari didnt give their blessing to the Prodrive 550 and history shows how well the factory blessed 575 went down...............

There's that Fredric Dor rumor as well...

[JAG]

Originally Posted by chunterer

Well as far as I can tell the only GT2 cars available that are any good right now are the 430, 997, C6 and M3?

Hardly any more variety than GT1.

The difference is GT2 manufactuers bring a media profile with them whereas most GT1 cars are produced by tuners.

Ratel believes a great GT1 show will attract media and fans but history shows manufactuers are needed to elevate a series above the status of glorified club racing.

[HORNDAWG]

Originally Posted by rich07

Ferrari didnt give their blessing to the Prodrive 550 and history shows how well the factory blessed 575 went down...............

Come on now, we all know that is down to the builder. There is not a dang thing wrong with the Michelotto built Ferraris. The 575 GTC was a product of N-Technology, heck the 550 was also not very good until Prodrive took over the project. So.......





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[rich07]

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Come on now, we all know that is down to the builder. There is not a dang thing wrong with the Michelotto built Ferraris. The 575 GTC was a product of N-Technology, heck the 550 was also not very good until Prodrive took over the project. So.......





L.P.

I was only refering to the 575 which were built by N-Technology. Although I do suspect the 575 project wasnt given full attention due to the development of the MC12.

Slightly OT but did Michelotto build any 575s from the ground up or did they just modify an existing car? I remember a 'Michelotto' 575 for sale a while back and it had every update ever made,it was one of the last cars to be built so I remember.

[HORNDAWG]

Originally Posted by rich07

Slightly OT but did Michelotto build any 575s from the ground up or did they just modify an existing car? I remember a 'Michelotto' 575 for sale a while back and it had every update ever made,it was one of the last cars to be built so I remember.

Ground-up, I am not sure about. Were they not the 575 GTC Evoluzione? I know the first of ? how many of the Michelotto's was chassis #20 which went directly to a collection. How many actually came out of Michelotto I am not certain, but they did not start until late 2005 and by then the Prodrive 550 was already the chosen weapon, and that not for long.




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[tux]

Well i like it so thats all that matters to me. Its been a good season for the championship so far and with rumours of a north american race next season it will get even better. Who cares if the cars are 4-5 years old, who cars if Hindy dosnt like it, who cares that every weekend the fia are adjusting the performance of cars to keep things close. We would all miss the series if it wasnt around and im fairly sure some people who seem deadset against the series secretly watch the races

[rich07]

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Ground-up, I am not sure about. Were they not the 575 GTC Evoluzione? I know the first of ? how many of the Michelotto's was chassis #20 which went directly to a collection. How many actually came out of Michelotto I am not certain, but they did not start until late 2005 and by then the Prodrive 550 was already the chosen weapon, and that not for long.

L.P.

Well if thats the case, its a shame that Michelotto didnt get the nod to build the car from the start, it would've been a better car. Chassis 20? I wonder if there are actually 20 575s or it was designated a certain number by request. I know there's less then 20 Prodrive 550s.

[HORNDAWG]

It looks as if the #22'20' started as a N-Technology car and was Evoluzioned by Michelotto. It also seems 3 cars probably came out of Michelotto. And yes they were not built in continuous numerical sequence, but were even in #.
http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92736





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[MJ_N_09]

It makes me wonder how many more cars in the grid GT1 could have if Larbre and the other GT1 LMS team ran in FIA and if the 550 (or a real longshot, the C5-R) was allowed to race under the new rules.

[Subaru_WRX_STi]

Grosjean out and Prost in at Matech, already 9 drivers use for team Ford, thats too much

[HORNDAWG]

Olly is out at Mad Croc.




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[Yakuncha]

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Olly is out at Mad Croc.




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http://www.olivergavin.com/2010/08/o...-championship/ - it was going to happen sooner or later, the statement is a thinly veiled way of showing his utter and total contempt and frustration with the slowest gentleman driver on the grid. 4 seconds a lap slower in most cases! A shame as he would have been very strong if Mika Salo had of been his teammate rather than substitute

[rich07]

I think its a shame to lose such a great driver from the championship but yeah I can see his frustration at him the hare being paired with the tortoise. They should've paired him with Salo instead of Kuismanen in the first place but when one brings the money they get the drive.........

[Deleted]

I remember reading an interview where Kuismanen was complaining about Gavin, saying how difficult it is to set seatbelts right with him and how working with Salo was much easier Good to see Oliver go, he cannot get results with that slow grandfather.