IMSA IMSA 2025

[Articus]

Originally Posted by seanyb505

Msr wouldn't have lost Watkins due to inability to heat tires on the restart..

On a more serious note, Alpine has the same problem in WEC. Both are using the Oreca chassis.

[Coach Ep]

Originally Posted by NSX_LeMans

Yeah, I find it surprising too. I believe Ganassi/Hyundai made an offer, Pipo asked AXR/Cadillac if they would cover it, they didn't, so he is moving to the other team.
His role as a development driver would prevent him from doing a full season in 2025, specially with others factory teams, so that is where the selected LMP2 races comes in.

Supposedly one of the Penske Porsche seat is opening up as well (according to a S365 snippet) - Cameron out?? - so we could see Derani fill that as another option.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by tomcug

And confirmed but with additional involvement from HPD:
https://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/h...fort-for-2025/

Do you think HRC is involved to make sure there is an accurate transmission of data?

[tomcug]

Originally Posted by joeb

Do you think HRC is involved to make sure there is an accurate transmission of data?

Who knows But I think they're pretty sure Shank won't try that again, he knows how it ends already. Maybe they just want to try something new that they've never done before (running a car almost entirely themselves I mean).

[Adam43]

I'm out of touch with the race as I was on holiday.

But here is some lap comparisons.

Average Lap time

Rank	Car	Fastest	Top 10	Top 25	Top 50	Laps
1	6 Porsche	1:34.188	1:34.707	1:35.350	1:35.967	148
2	01 Cadillac	1:34.420	1:34.748	1:35.373	1:36.035	148
3	7 Porsche	1:34.251	1:34.756	1:35.607	1:36.256	148
4	40 Acura	1:35.042	1:35.254	1:35.673	1:36.284	148
5	31 Cadillac	1:35.052	1:35.522	1:35.884	1:36.505	147
6	85 Porsche	1:34.734	1:35.558	1:36.041	1:36.653	146
7	25 BMW	1:35.106	1:35.791	1:36.106	1:36.622	148
8	24 BMW	1:35.331	1:35.719	1:36.157	1:36.733	148
9	10 Acura	1:35.328	1:35.845	1:36.167	1:36.696	134
10	5 Porsche	1:35.875	1:36.188	1:36.624	1:37.215	147
11	63 Lamborghini	1:35.686	1:36.289	1:36.728	1:37.364	107

Top 3 close. BMW a little behind. Lamborghini still getting up to speed (and down to weight?).

[GT3_Fan]

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2024/...o-step-up.html

IMSA probably the place for any privateer entries in hypercar to run in 2025 if they want. But Porsche is the only one available still? Also if IMSA grid is at capacity. The obvious thing to do to allow more hypercars is to reduce LMP2 size.

[tomcug]

https://www.motorsport.com/wec/news/...imsa/10635482/
I think Jota cars will find new owners

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by tomcug

https://www.motorsport.com/wec/news/...imsa/10635482/
I think Jota cars will find new owners

The Jota cars have owners, they're collector cars not Jota owned


Or so people have told Dagys "With those two chassis, owned by private collectors linked to the British squad, unlikely to be put into race action next year, it could open the door for further cars to be produced."

[tomcug]

You're right, I missed that. Thanks.

[v8supes]

They said that there will probably not be any Acura NSXs in GTD/GTD Pro next year.

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by v8supes

They said that there will probably not be any Acura NSXs in GTD/GTD Pro next year.

Only guys running one are changing cars, Gradient to Mustang for 25

https://racer.com/2024/08/06/gradien...a-gtd-in-2025/

[flatlandsman]

It is a car that is getting long in the tooth, and unless you are a Vasser type operation and can do your own development as they have it is likely to be a slower option than a Mustang, which in the USA is also probably easier to get backers for.

[GT3_Fan]

Originally Posted by flatlandsman

It is a car that is getting long in the tooth, and unless you are a Vasser type operation and can do your own development as they have it is likely to be a slower option than a Mustang, which in the USA is also probably easier to get backers for.

Acura NSX about to join Nissan GTR and Bentley Continental as GT3 cars no longer used in major series.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by GT3_Fan

Acura NSX about to join Nissan GTR and Bentley Continental as GT3 cars no longer used in major series.

to be fair, it has been out of production for a few years. Can't blame Honda or teams for not being interested in a dead end product.

[flatlandsman]

I think both the Honda and Datson are obviously used in Japan in GT300, but not sure about anywhere else. The Acura has showed pace but not with the perm drivers sadly.

[Articus]

Originally Posted by joeb

to be fair, it has been out of production for a few years. Can't blame Honda or teams for not being interested in a dead end product.

Honda could make a Civic Type R GT3 car.

[broadrun96]

Man just imagine a GT3, GT4 and TCR car on the same chassis, the FIA is already twitching on just the idea of it

[flatlandsman]

TCR are actually hugely quick in lots of places, they run hillclimbs in Europe very quickly considering they are basically a 350hp fwd car, and in IMSA on some tracks they are very quick, was it not Mid Ohio they were on the same lap in Michelin Cup! That is an impressively engineered car making maximum use of its power.

[Nick Woodbury]

Blech, I remember hearing this was going to happen after the Rolex 24, but still disappointing to see. na$car paves over the remaining greenery at the daytona back straight.

[GT3_Fan]

Including GTD cars in VP Sportscar series..I did not see that one coming. If that one post series IMSA race at Sebring a few years back was an indication. The GT3 cars are close enough to LMP3 in speed that they would take over the overall lead during off sequence periods when the P3's pit but before they do.

Also this series uses the single driver sprint race format I think. It was as if IMSA came up with this idea to allow GTD in the series after GT WC America decided to keep the 90 minute format and NOT go single driver/sprint.

[broadrun96]

Well the drivers and more importantly teams can see what's needed to stay afloat. One series makes it much much easier to sell time in Daytona and enduros with seat time in a GT4 or GTD car for the Bronze folks

I'm also more interested in the series now and wonder if they are worried about loss of LMP3s with the new cars coming on and possibly delayed delivery.

Did notice it could require multiple cars and crew notes, no torque sensors for GTDX. I'm guessing they don't reuse cars between VP Challenge and Michelin Pilot and it's not just new badges between races.

https://sportscar365.com/imsa/vp-rac...nge-next-year/

[joeb]

Originally Posted by broadrun96

Well the drivers and more importantly teams can see what's needed to stay afloat. One series makes it much much easier to sell time in Daytona and enduros with seat time in a GT4 or GTD car for the Bronze folks

I'm also more interested in the series now and wonder if they are worried about loss of LMP3s with the new cars coming on and possibly delayed delivery.

Did notice it could require multiple cars and crew notes, no torque sensors for GTDX. I'm guessing they don't reuse cars between VP Challenge and Michelin Pilot and it's not just new badges between races.

https://sportscar365.com/imsa/vp-rac...nge-next-year/

Not a bad idea adding GT3, plenty of cars to go around and if somebody wants to run one there isn t room in the big series. Plus the GT3 and 4 combo may draw some more teams away from the sro series.

[broadrun96]

It's definitely a shot at SRO and the crying over BoP over there

[NaBUru38]

LMP3 drivers will not be amused

[GT3_Fan]

Originally Posted by broadrun96

It's definitely a shot at SRO and the crying over BoP over there

The 511/Flying Lizard BMW might be a team that this new GTDX category might appeal to.