V8SC V's AFL - Page 3

barney551 · 14 Dec 2006, 08:23 (Ref:1790377)

well i try to get to 5 or 6 aswelll ... and yes its expensive and I am just happy to see what ever I can of the other rounds and sit here with my laptop on and watch the live timing so at least I know whats happening with all the drivers in the field not just the ones the tv channels deem it fit to show, and that includes the positions all the way through to 31.

cavvy · 14 Dec 2006, 19:09 (Ref:1790785)

Foxtel have put more money on the table - getting closer.

stmookeyj033 · 17 Dec 2006, 06:03 (Ref:1792491)

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Originally Posted by Average Punter

What time is the Seven evening news? 6pm?

Maybe they'll start the AFL coverage about 3:30.

That means they'll probably show the second race (about 11am) on delay, then the third one live to finish before the footy.

Only problem is if there is a big delay and race three starts late.

"Sorry but we know there are only three laps to go but we cross now to the G for coverage of the Richmond/Carlton cross-country basketball..."

7 News is at 6:00 BUT there's an issue of a twilight fixture which starts about 4:30/5:00. Naturally 7 would want the 2 games on that Sunday to maximise ratings leading into the news and their "Weak" Sunday Night lineup.

The Hrt Kid · 17 Dec 2006, 06:28 (Ref:1792498)

but if foxtel get 4 games, 7 will show friday night football and one sunday game. 10 will show saturday and saturday night football.

cavvy · 18 Dec 2006, 19:54 (Ref:1793945)

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Originally Posted by cavvy

Foxtel have put more money on the table - getting closer.

Interested parties convene again today.

billybanana · 19 Dec 2006, 00:30 (Ref:1794198)

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Originally Posted by cavvy

Interested parties convene again today.

Let's hope they sort it out once and for all.....I'm sure everyone's sick of the whole saga.

Pro Racer · 19 Dec 2006, 10:42 (Ref:1794470)

i hope we have it all settled very sonn and everyone can move on.

cavvy · 19 Dec 2006, 18:13 (Ref:1794947)

Again 7 & 10 rejected Foxtel 's bid - this time the sticking point was a Foxtel demand for exclusive rights to certain games in WA & SA, where Foxtel subscriptions are struggling.
Kerry Stokes looking after his home town?

billybanana · 19 Dec 2006, 23:02 (Ref:1795269)

I thought Packer had a big ego but Stokes takes the cake.

dsg · 19 Dec 2006, 23:06 (Ref:1795273)

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Originally Posted by cavvy

Kerry Stokes looking after his home town?

I hope so. I don't want to pay to watch Footy or the V8s.

Da Moo · 20 Dec 2006, 00:06 (Ref:1795301)

Packer is the one with the biggest ego...according to the press it is Packer stopping Fox Sports from making the deal happen....looks like 7 and 10 will be doing all the games meaning v8s will have to be finished by about 1pm on sundays when there is a clash

barney551 · 20 Dec 2006, 02:10 (Ref:1795342)

Da Moo ... have you seriously looked at the schedule????

racer69 · 20 Dec 2006, 04:07 (Ref:1795390)

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Originally Posted by Da Moo

Packer is the one with the biggest ego...according to the press it is Packer stopping Fox Sports from making the deal happen....looks like 7 and 10 will be doing all the games meaning v8s will have to be finished by about 1pm on sundays when there is a clash

That has always been on the cards for some of the rounds Sunday's since the deal was announced, whether a deal was done with Foxtel or not!

cavvy · 20 Dec 2006, 07:43 (Ref:1795466)

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Originally Posted by billybanana

I thought Packer had a big ego but Stokes takes the cake.

How do you reach that conclusion billy?

You remember Kerry Packer & the 9 sponsorship of the KB Camaro - dont remember James doing anything for motorsport.

There would no Cat sponsorship if Kerry Stokes had not supported the factory when it kicked in for the only WA based V8 team with John Bowe steering - Kerry is Australia's biggest Cat dealer billy.

Remember the B sponsorship - a Stokes company.

Sure Richo ran with Westrac sponsorship on his Porsche.

To compare Kerry Stokes unfavourably with James Packer billy, pray tell, why?

Da Moo · 21 Dec 2006, 20:22 (Ref:1797075)

Sorry Barney - make that 2pm. According to The Age today, ch7 will be showing AFL from 2pm each Sunday. having to finish by 2pm on the weekends there is a clash is not a good outcome for v8s.

Could be worse but its not the massive leap forward that TC said it is.

barney551 · 21 Dec 2006, 20:33 (Ref:1797088)

Once again ... Da Moo ...you make it sound like it is the majority of rounds that are affected.

All this rumour mongering does absolutely nothing. Have another look at the schedules and as VESA have said the traditional programing of event s will change to mean more live racing on TV.

billybanana · 21 Dec 2006, 21:07 (Ref:1797119)

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Originally Posted by cavvy

To compare Kerry Stokes unfavourably with James Packer billy, pray tell, why?

More to do with my personal dislike of the man than anything else.

In the the context of the AFL deal it seemed odd to me that 7 would knock back receiving $50M a year from Foxtel as opposed to giving games away to ABC/SBS/Ch31 for nothing.

Ultimately if it means we see qualifying & Race 1 live I'll be happy.

Da Moo · 21 Dec 2006, 23:44 (Ref:1797234)

its not rumour mongering its just fact. there are going to be a number of clashes and im sure there will still be live coverage but it just means v8s get shunted to earlier in the day and i dont think that is a very good outcome - thats all i have said since the start.

You have your own opinion and I have mine.

I would love to know what the sponsors think - they may be 'ok' with it but do you think this outcome is the sensational broadcast deal that was promised - it is still a good financial one and I think overall its not too bad but it could be better and it still may happen if fox sports did happen to do a deal with 7 and 10.

garbo6 · 22 Dec 2006, 00:57 (Ref:1797272)

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Originally Posted by Da Moo

Sorry Barney - make that 2pm. According to The Age today, ch7 will be showing AFL from 2pm each Sunday. having to finish by 2pm on the weekends there is a clash is not a good outcome for v8s.

Could be worse but its not the massive leap forward that TC said it is.

AFL from 2pm each Sunday. A three hour telecast will finish by 5pm, so if the final race is under an hour long, it could be the leadup to the news. This could be a possibility as the final races will be 120km next year (not 140km). So if it is the faster circuits that clash it could be fine.

They could also scrap the AFL post match and the telecast could start at 4:45pm.

For Eastern and Central state games working around the AFL shouldn't be too much of a problem. I think the WA games may be more of an issue to work around.

stmookeyj033 · 22 Dec 2006, 05:15 (Ref:1797354)

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Originally Posted by garbo6

AFL from 2pm each Sunday. A three hour telecast will finish by 5pm, so if the final race is under an hour long, it could be the leadup to the news. This could be a possibility as the final races will be 120km next year (not 140km). So if it is the faster circuits that clash it could be fine.

They could also scrap the AFL post match and the telecast could start at 4:45pm.

For Eastern and Central state games working around the AFL shouldn't be too much of a problem. I think the WA games may be more of an issue to work around.

One problem....I would have thought that 7 would like to show the 4:45 twilight match as a lead up to the news and to cripple 9 in the Sunday ratings.

barney551 · 22 Dec 2006, 05:59 (Ref:1797367)

dont you think 10 might like the same option!!

garbo6 · 22 Dec 2006, 13:09 (Ref:1797659)

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Originally Posted by stmookeyj033

One problem....I would have thought that 7 would like to show the 4:45 twilight match as a lead up to the news and to cripple 9 in the Sunday ratings.

What and have the news at half time.

Both 7 and 9 have shown a great reluctance to move from the 6pm newslot during ratings season, whereas Ch10 has shown numerous times that news isn't important to them.

It was written somewhere that Ch10 will have the twilight game slot.

peckstar · 26 Dec 2006, 02:35 (Ref:1799249)

channel ten will have the twilight game, because they have two games on sundays. so they will have a game ataround 1ish another straight after that, it would be fifficulkt to do a game at 2 and then the twilight game, as there just isnt the time

lookleft · 26 Dec 2006, 09:04 (Ref:1799301)

The last thing we need is "split" coverage - screw watching a race at 10 then waiting until 5 to see the next one.

With the Foxtel deal dragging on I am getting more convinced the move to secure the rights to the V8's may have more to do with protecting the AFL than developing motorsport. With the only viable, non football, winter competition in the back pocket 7 has certainly cornered the market in March - Nov weekend TV.

racer69 · 26 Dec 2006, 14:20 (Ref:1799403)

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Originally Posted by lookleft

The last thing we need is "split" coverage - screw watching a race at 10 then waiting until 5 to see the next one.

'Split coverage' as you call it was a feature of some of Channel 7's ATCC broadcasts from 1993-onwards, where Race 1 was shown live plus a few supports, then off to the AFL, then back for a delayed Race 2 coverage (plus usually the second Superbike race) before the news.

Most liked this scenario at the time, as it gave us some live racing.

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