Motorsport Quiz - Page 3

crmalcolm · 28 Nov 2022, 06:41 (Ref:4135103)

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Originally Posted by Born Racer

What links Lance Stroll, Nico Hülkenberg, Kevin Magnussen and Alexander Albon?

Over 100 points in F1 without a win?

(The others from the clue all had over 100 points before their first win)

Teretonga · 28 Nov 2022, 06:46 (Ref:4135104)

My question relates to one of their achievements, not their background.

crmalcolm · 28 Nov 2022, 06:51 (Ref:4135105)

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Originally Posted by Teretonga

What do John Surtees and Lewis Hamilton have in common?

They have both been winners of the BBC Sports Personality of the Year Award in a year when an England footballer has been second.

peebee2 · 28 Nov 2022, 06:53 (Ref:4135106)

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Originally Posted by Born Racer

Interesting, but it's not right. The only one of those who hasn't led a lap (and Albon has led exactly one) is Magnussen.

Stroll and Hulkenberg have had poles, but Magnussen and Albon haven't.

Magnussen was credited with a pole two races ago!

**Born Racer** · 28 Nov 2022, 08:00 (Ref:4135110)

I thought a pole for the sprint doesn't count in the stats as pole for a Grand Prix. I stand to be corrected, though.

Apparently, it's under debate: https://www.racefans.net/2022/04/18/...rely-cosmetic/

Teretonga · 28 Nov 2022, 08:09 (Ref:4135113)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

They have both been winners of the BBC Sports Personality of the Year Award in a year when an England footballer has been second.

I didn't Know that!
But it is not the answer to my question.
My question relates to a racing achievement both had in common.

Teretonga · 28 Nov 2022, 08:32 (Ref:4135114)

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Originally Posted by Born Racer

I thought a pole for the sprint doesn't count in the stats as pole for a Grand Prix. I stand to be corrected, though.

Apparently, it's under debate: https://www.racefans.net/2022/04/18/...rely-cosmetic/

And at Sao Paulo Magnessen was commended on his status as pole winner by media and others.
So according to what happened he has a pole position.
But the 'rules' may not say that.
However the records may say he did!

crmalcolm · 28 Nov 2022, 08:34 (Ref:4135115)

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Originally Posted by Born Racer

Apparently, it's under debate: https://www.racefans.net/2022/04/18/...rely-cosmetic/

It's definitely an interesting debate.

In the F1 Driver Awards section, they list Magnussen as pole for Rd 21 2022 and the winner of the Pirelli Pole Position Award.

In 2021, they did not award the Pirelli Pole Position Award at the sprint rounds, but instead the driver who started the Sprint in P1 was awarded the Pirelli Speed King Award.

crmalcolm · 28 Nov 2022, 08:39 (Ref:4135116)

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Originally Posted by Teretonga

My question relates to a racing achievement both had in common.

Both have one DSQ to their name in F1?

S griffin · 28 Nov 2022, 08:54 (Ref:4135117)

The connection between the four is really stumping me. I thought maybe they've been team mates to champions without winning a race, but Hulkenberg is the odd one out in that too!

peebee2 · 28 Nov 2022, 09:26 (Ref:4135127)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

It's definitely an interesting debate.

In the F1 Driver Awards section, they list Magnussen as pole for Rd 21 2022 and the winner of the Pirelli Pole Position Award.

In 2021, they did not award the Pirelli Pole Position Award at the sprint rounds, but instead the driver who started the Sprint in P1 was awarded the Pirelli Speed King Award.

I think they changed the rules this year to mean whoever starts the Sprint first is officially the pole position winner.

**Born Racer** · 28 Nov 2022, 09:33 (Ref:4135128)

I don't really have an issue with that. They were fastest in qualifying. The fact that they have to do a race to take up whatever position they will for the Grand Prix is not reflective of the fact they got pole. Of course, the history books of these poles won't tell you that a driver who got pole such as Magnussen didn't get to start a Grand Prix from the front, but pole in Friday qualifying is still a good representation of a pole position (i.e. the winner of competition over one lap).

**Born Racer** · 28 Nov 2022, 09:33 (Ref:4135129)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

The connection between the four is really stumping me. I thought maybe they've been team mates to champions without winning a race, but Hulkenberg is the odd one out in that too!

Hulkenberg hasn't won a Grand Prix yet.

wolfhound · 28 Nov 2022, 09:34 (Ref:4135130)

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Originally Posted by Born Racer

Interesting, but it's not right. The only one of those who hasn't led a lap (and Albon has led exactly one) is Magnussen.

I said they have all led an F1 race as opposed to a GP as Magnussen led the sprint race in Brazil but not the GP, but I will try to figure out the answer.

**Born Racer** · 28 Nov 2022, 13:19 (Ref:4135171)

It's not about leading.

Richard C · 28 Nov 2022, 16:41 (Ref:4135206)

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Originally Posted by Born Racer

What links Lance Stroll, Nico Hülkenberg, Kevin Magnussen and Alexander Albon?

Weak answer from me (don't think it's correct)... All three have been on the podium but with no wins.

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Originally Posted by Born Racer

Clue: Leclerc, Pérez, Russell, Sainz, Ocon, Bottas, Ricciardo and Gasly all have something similar in common to what Magnussen, Stroll, Hulkenberg and Albon have in common, but with a key difference.

I suspect if I applied same logic to those above, I would fine my answer is wrong somehow. I suspect the group above have a similar link, but on a slightly different metric.

Richard

S griffin · 28 Nov 2022, 18:22 (Ref:4135225)

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Originally Posted by Born Racer

Hulkenberg hasn't won a Grand Prix yet.

I meant he hasn’t had a champion team mate

Tourer · 28 Nov 2022, 21:14 (Ref:4135255)

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Originally Posted by E.B

Sadly John Surtees was never knighted. He does have a CBE but no knighthood.

(Lewis is not a CBE but does have an MBE.)

Thanks EB - well I massively blew that didn't I? Got too carried away while waxing lyrical(ish).

Teretonga · 29 Nov 2022, 03:29 (Ref:4135273)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Both have one DSQ to their name in F1?

No.
It has to do with the way they both became WDC.

crmalcolm · 29 Nov 2022, 05:02 (Ref:4135275)

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Originally Posted by Teretonga

No.
It has to do with the way they both became WDC.

They both became WDC by one point?

**Born Racer** · 29 Nov 2022, 05:21 (Ref:4135276)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

I meant he hasn’t had a champion team mate

He's had one.

**Born Racer** · 29 Nov 2022, 05:26 (Ref:4135277)

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Originally Posted by Teretonga

No.
It has to do with the way they both became WDC.

Ah. Both Hamilton and Surtees were out of position to win the championship until the last lap and then they took it (and neither won the race).

Teretonga · 29 Nov 2022, 07:42 (Ref:4135286)

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Originally Posted by Born Racer

Ah. Both Hamilton and Surtees were out of position to win the championship until the last lap and then they took it (and neither won the race).

Probably the closest so far but I'll give it to you.
Answer I was looking for:
Both drivers won their championships by moving up a place on the final lap of the final race of the season.

Surtees at Mexico 1964 and Lewis Hamilton at Brazil in 2008.
Hamilton passed Glock towards the end of the final lap.

At Mexico Clark dropped out on the penultimate lap giving Gurney the lead and Bandini was quickly signaled to let John past during the final lap to take second behind Gurney, Bandini coming in third.
That gave John the title by one point from G Hill.

S griffin · 29 Nov 2022, 08:33 (Ref:4135295)

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Originally Posted by Born Racer

He's had one.

Has he? These are the team mates I know he's had: Barrichello, di Resta, Guitierrez, Perez, Palmer, Sainz, Ricciardo and Stroll. Can't remember any others.

**Born Racer** · 29 Nov 2022, 11:05 (Ref:4135369)

Vettel has also been a team-mate (this year at Aston Martin).

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