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Old 15 Feb 2012, 03:41 (Ref:3025999)   #51
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Seems to me that Lotus are using sponsorship to confuse people, the former Renault F1 team is not owned by Lotus as far as I know but is sponsored by them, and is calling it's cars Lotii, I wonder what they will be called when Lotus runs out of money (again)???
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Old 15 Feb 2012, 03:57 (Ref:3026003)   #52
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Not the same V8 as the TS030
Well thats unfortunate then.
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Old 15 Feb 2012, 05:31 (Ref:3026011)   #53
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This has already been discussed. The V8 engine will be updated from last season but basically the same unit. Not the works Toyota engine, why would they get that?
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Old 15 Feb 2012, 05:38 (Ref:3026014)   #54
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Because they've got an engine deal with Toyota? Wouldn't you (if you were Toyota) wanting your customers to represent you as best they can?
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Old 15 Feb 2012, 08:55 (Ref:3026041)   #55
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You just said it, they have an engine deal- that deal is with the RV8KLM engine.
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Old 15 Feb 2012, 20:42 (Ref:3026307)   #56
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Because they've got an engine deal with Toyota? Wouldn't you (if you were Toyota) wanting your customers to represent you as best they can?
Then again, is the TS030's engine optimized to run with its hybrid system? It would probably be a bit complicated to optimize an entirely new/unproven engine in a car when they already have a perfectly strong package already. After all, Rebellion isn't exactly doing a bad job of flying the TMG colors either...
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Old 16 Feb 2012, 22:13 (Ref:3026811)   #57
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I heard a rumour , that Rebellion may run rebadged Toyota engines as Lotus for 2013 ..... any truth in that ?
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Old 16 Feb 2012, 23:53 (Ref:3026852)   #58
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Yes ... it is true you heard that rumor.
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Old 21 Feb 2012, 15:32 (Ref:3028963)   #59
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Nick, Neel and Nico check out Lola
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Old 22 Feb 2012, 21:30 (Ref:3029639)   #60
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First glimpse at the team's new livery free on DSC:

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Nice, I like it! Looks better than the F1 livery surely. Actually seems 'gold'.
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Old 22 Feb 2012, 21:45 (Ref:3029647)   #62
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yes i like the look of that but such a shame that it will be spoilt by those ruddy great fins at le mans
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Old 22 Feb 2012, 22:00 (Ref:3029654)   #63
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seriously ACO, look at how nice that car looks - come on, who's with me; the Anti-BHS campaign needs to start now!
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Old 22 Feb 2012, 22:09 (Ref:3029659)   #64
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I reckon their suggesting a Players cigarette brand , JPS . But how in hell that works is beyond me , cuz of a tobacco advertising ban ?

I like the red trim on the wheels though
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I reckon their suggesting a Players cigarette brand , JPS . But how in hell that works is beyond me , cuz of a tobacco advertising ban ?
Not comparable to Ferrari's Marlboro's barcode logo*. No money comes from JPS and it's just gold color on black and there's no blatant attempt at mimicking the JPS logo.

* no longer exists, but the current Ferrari logo is obviously influenced and Marlboro remains Ferrari's major sponsor: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rrari_Logo.png
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seriously ACO, look at how nice that car looks - come on, who's with me; the Anti-BHS campaign needs to start now!
The side view is spectacular, I like it a lot.
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Old 23 Feb 2012, 03:04 (Ref:3029729)   #67
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I've nothing against this set of colours but... will we see any cars this year that aren't in Gulf or JPS colours?
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Old 23 Feb 2012, 05:39 (Ref:3029740)   #68
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hey that look real nice!
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Let me go against the grain and say NO. It may look good but I don't want to see another Lotus livery on a racing car that most definitely is NOT a Lotus.
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Let me go against the grain and say NO. It may look good but I don't want to see another Lotus livery on a racing car that most definitely is NOT a Lotus.
I'm with you on that, not only the fact that I liked the original livery, but I'm kinda getting sick of Lotus doing this rebadging nonsense...
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Let me go against the grain and say NO. It may look good but I don't want to see another Lotus livery on a racing car that most definitely is NOT a Lotus.
Most definitely, especially since Rebellion is a team who has achieved their level of success under their own efforts, even when they were still Sebah they were strong contenders...it's dissatisfying to see Lotus trying to steal the limelight like this.
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Let me go against the grain and say NO. It may look good but I don't want to see another Lotus livery on a racing car that most definitely is NOT a Lotus.
Oh, I agree with you. I like the car, the livery is a pointless change, would much prefer them to continue with their own unique scheme (if they wanted a Lotus deal they could have said it was Gold Leaf-esque...)
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Despite all the ongoing issues it seems the Lotus colours remain on the new spec Lola.

It's broken cover today in testing:
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