Rain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Page 3

Lee Janotta · 6 Apr 2003, 16:13 (Ref:560109)

Minime, it was 1989, not 1991, that Senna hit a backmarker. Both were crashfests, but the '89 race was allowed to go on to the finish.

pole2pole · 6 Apr 2003, 16:15 (Ref:560110)

Race will start behind the safty car

MiniMe · 6 Apr 2003, 16:15 (Ref:560111)

I got drenched making this pic on the first lap at Adelaide '89 - Prost on the right, Senna is on the left

MiniMe · 6 Apr 2003, 16:17 (Ref:560115)

Quote:

Originally posted by Lee Janotta
Minime, it was 1989, not 1991, that Senna hit a backmarker. Both were crashfests, but the '89 race was allowed to go on to the finish.

LOl - you are right - I was photo manager at Adelaide 89 and 90! The pic above was '89!

Jay · 6 Apr 2003, 16:18 (Ref:560117)

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"Surfer's last year was a mess because the track's a concrete canyon that prevented any of the spray from escaping.

- A 3-4 foot high concrete fence prevented the spray from escaping? (it's all chain link above that).

Interstingly Jacques also was allowed to change his engine. The rule that they're not allowed to touch the cars after quali has far too many loop holes in it. I bet BAR could have done just about anything they wanted to the car and they wouldn't have noticed.

Lee Janotta · 6 Apr 2003, 16:20 (Ref:560120)

Groovy. I was looking for a pic from that race, the best I could find was one from Monaco '84.

Safety car? Aww! These are supposed to be the best drivers in the WORLD! My mother can drive in the rain!!!

Besides, this is one of the best wet-weather fields we've had in years. M$, Rubens, JPM, Kimi, and Webber are all demons in the wet.

pole2pole · 6 Apr 2003, 16:21 (Ref:560123)

anybody any pics from donington 93 what a race that was

**Adam43** · 6 Apr 2003, 16:22 (Ref:560125)

Quote:

Originally posted by Jay
Interstingly Jacques also was allowed to change his engine. The rule that they're not allowed to touch the cars after quali has far too many loop holes in it. I bet BAR could have done just about anything they wanted to the car and they wouldn't have noticed.

Do they have to do in front of FIA officials?

What was wrong with the engine? Although it is maybe open to abuse with qualy engines etc, I'm glad they allow it. It would be bad to lose an entrant a couple of laps into the race.

DavidStHubbins · 6 Apr 2003, 16:24 (Ref:560128)

When its big puddle wet its a different story, I have driven single seaters over big puddles and the whole thing floats in whatever direction it wants at 130mph, not pretty if there are any walls around. It cant be done if its as wet as it they are saying. I heard Shuey say something along those lines too. And didnt Kimi spin three times on the straight the other day? Thats not racing.

However if its just wet wet then its ok

If anyone understands...

Lee Janotta · 6 Apr 2003, 16:25 (Ref:560129)

Quote:

Originally posted by Jay
- A 3-4 foot high concrete fence prevented the spray from escaping? (it's all chain link above that).

Yep! It's a matter of aerodynamics, Jay. Surfer's is a narrow track, so you can't get out of the other guy's spray, and there's no wind blowing it away, it just hangs there. The fences, grandstands and trees all conspire to make visibility nonexistant under wet conditions there. No such problem is present at Adelaide (much wider!), or Interlagos for that matter. And Monaco is too damn slow for the spray to really get up in the air, except for on the trip up the hill, and then as you're leaving the tunnel... But those are areas where you know to be careful.

MiniMe · 6 Apr 2003, 16:31 (Ref:560131)

Quote:

Originally posted by Lee Janotta
Groovy. I was looking for a pic from that race, the best I could find was one from Monaco '84.

My photos are copyrighted, but of you need a bigger copy of it for private purposes, PM me

Quote:

Originally posted by Lee Janotta
Besides, this is one of the best wet-weather fields we've had in years. M$, Rubens, JPM, Kimi, and Webber are all demons in the wet.

Perhaps surprisingly, Verstappen can be good in the wet too, not that Minardi will matter - but ya never know, rain is the great equaliser.

Lee Janotta · 6 Apr 2003, 16:31 (Ref:560132)

Watching the pre-race show... That doesn't look bad at all now!

Ginger1 · 6 Apr 2003, 16:32 (Ref:560133)

Can someone please clarify the tire rule for me? I must have missed this one. Why are no full wet tires available for the race? Seems a little daft.

Do teams have to select 2/3 tire-types or something, and none of them have chosen full wets, or is it the manufacturers who decide which tires to bring?

A confused Phil

Edited for spelling

DavidStHubbins · 6 Apr 2003, 16:35 (Ref:560134)

Yeah, eurosport says the rain has chilled out which is good.

Cmon Kimi

Jay · 6 Apr 2003, 16:36 (Ref:560135)

Lee, I don't feel like arguing basics, so you can believe what you want.

Getting the first pictures from the Brazil, and it doesn't look that wet at all? Was all the fuss simply becuase the media centre was flooded? It looks like inter terretory actually.

SILVERS95 · 6 Apr 2003, 16:36 (Ref:560136)

yes , its just very wet , not flooded or anything as bad as that

Jay · 6 Apr 2003, 16:43 (Ref:560139)

sorry, it said flooded on the ITV website... I have no idea.

far · 6 Apr 2003, 16:43 (Ref:560141)

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Originally posted by SILVERS95
yes , its just very wet , not flooded or anything as bad as that

True but the rain is coming down again....

Lee Janotta · 6 Apr 2003, 16:43 (Ref:560142)

Cripes, it's coming down again... Alright, _this_, I'll admit... As a driver, I'd certainly go out in it (hell, I'd go out in _snow!_), but I suppose the organizers really can't start the race in a downpour this heavy.

**Adam43** · 6 Apr 2003, 16:44 (Ref:560144)

2 hours under pace car. If this happens presumeably some will still have to stop for fuel?

If not Rubens wins.

First person to stop and fill up till the end wins. He'll go in and join the back of the queue and wait till everyone else stops!

Jay · 6 Apr 2003, 16:45 (Ref:560147)

yeah, I take back what I said before, it's really coming down now. You can't do that in inters. I don't think you could race in that downpour period actually.

**Adam43** · 6 Apr 2003, 16:46 (Ref:560148)

I've got an idea. Why not a allow more than one type of wet tyre!

OK. THe Michelin inters look better for lots of rain (more like wets), but presumably the safety car doesn't go in till it is safe for all. So they wait till the conditions are best for Bridgestone! And Michelins are not inter enough!

Hence you make your one tyre type as much like a slick as possible. No racing until your tyre is suited to the conditions.

GP racing!

SILVERS95 · 6 Apr 2003, 16:47 (Ref:560149)

Bloody hell > Its pooring now !

Jay · 6 Apr 2003, 16:47 (Ref:560150)

The safety car could cream the F1 cars in these conditions (seriously).

Just shows how these cars are NOT designed for these conditions.

fast95pony · 6 Apr 2003, 16:48 (Ref:560151)

Who slipped the NASCAR rule book under the officials door ??

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