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I list the car's Bathurst starts 1980 - Brock / Richards 1981 - Harvey / Schuppan 1983 - Keogh / Leonard 1984 - Keogh / Shiel 1985 - Ellis / McLure 1986 - Ellis / Baily (notice no "e") |
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I don't think he did. i think he said the car that won in 1980, also competed in those following years.
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"It was dry for the second go-around. Grice, nervous, worrying about his Bathurst jinx, ran 2:25.9. The amazing Brock, using every last centimetre of bitumen, yet keeping the car straight and balanced and at full noise, came back with a staggering 2:20.0 as if to say: "Match that". And people just shook their heads, bit their lips and wondered who would be second". RIP Peter Brock. 1945-2006 |
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Camaroz, Ray Ellis tried to qualify in 1988 in a VL with Bruce Williams, but failed. Do you know if this is the same car or was it a new VL shell?
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"My records have the MHDT 1980 Winner running in 6 Bathurst's, 80, 81, 83, 84, 85 & 86."
Literacy is in the eye of the beholder, but I am sure we can all get the gyst of that..... |
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The VL was a new shall after they tried to convert the VB/C/H/K to VL. The new shell (Holden Motor Sport) used bits out of the VK. The VL was later sold to Paul Trevethan then someone else, then someone in Darwin (Darwin again!) and is now apparently in the north coast of NSW. Yellow/Blue?
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Does anyone have any record of how many starts the "Fred Sutherland" (spelling) Studebaker made at Bathurst?
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I'm pretty sure 'The Moffs' Cenovis Falcon was a six time starter from 93 until the 98 accident in the hands of Mr Heath ( In EL Specs ). Also the 93 Bathurst winning Commodore, went up until 98 ( then in VS Specs ) when Mark Poole decided to upgrade for the next year. Come to think of it, theres been quite a few 6 time starters.
The ex Ron Dickson Camaro went for about 6 as well (79-84 ?) What about Terry Finnigans Foodtown Commodore. Built 91 and was still at Bathurst in 1997, maybe even further. If you count the Fujitsu series races as well the Beikoff car has a fair few Bathurst 'race' starts. |
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The Moffat EB would have done 5..it didn't do the 1997 race. The Dickson Camaro would be a 6 time starter as well, under 3 owners. The Bartlett Camaro would be a 5 time starter, missing the 1983 race. I think you might be right about the Perkins/Poole VP/VS..it would be 6 starts for this car. Don't think the Beikoff AU has done any Bathursts..it was the ex Bastian car as I recall. |
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PE017 has made 6 starts, Perkins 93, Trimble 94, Poole 95-98.
The Beikhoff car is the car John McLean built for Rod Salmon in 2000, it started at Bathurst in 00 & 01. To add another slant what were the oldest cars to make a start in the 1000 (at least in the V8 era), I think these would be: Richard Mork’s 2000 VS that had been built by Bob Forbes Racing at the end of 1990 Chris Butler’s 2000 VS that had been built by Terry Finnigan at the beginning of 1991 Terry Wyhoon’s 2000 VS that had been built by HRT in 1991 Tim Rowse’s 1999 VS that had been built by Perkins Engineering for Bob Pearson at the beginning of 1991 Rod Salmon’s 1999 VS that had been built by Perkins Engineering for Peter Brock at the beginning of 1991 Bill Attard’s 2001 VS that had been built by Gibson Motorsport at the beginning of 1993 |
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The closest we would get to that in more modern times would be HRT#42, built as a VT by HRT in 1999 and run at Bathurst that year by Lowndes/McConville and which last ran at Bathurst in the hands of Murphy/McConville ( for PWR) in 2006).
Attards VS was at Bathurst in 2001 but didn't get a start ( it ran the Konica race instead) so can't count that year but still an impresive record for the car. |
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Does Chris Heye'rs VW Golf come close? He debuted the car in 1976, and it I'm sure it ran until around until 1981-82.
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The Bob Person VN from 91 (PE011)was only updated to VP, Rowse ran it as a VP, and then striped it, thats how Rowse sold it, and put the parts from the VP into another Perkins shell, ex castrol car i understand |
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My car is still going through the process with CAMS. The "other car" is now in Qld but to my knowledge no-one has seen it yet. Cheers. |
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In Qld, so I suppose its either having a champion experience or being Bowed & owned. Anyway good luck with yours, it looks magnificent. If it is the Bathurst winner does that make the other car the proto mule car built by John Sheppard & raced by Moff at Sandown ?
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