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[johngee]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Im still trying to work out where that is on the track.

That could be the reason why you're not winning Peter?

[Peter Mallett]

True. But I confess to being puzzled by that shot.

It might help if I knew which way the cars were actually going! I don't recognise the building to the left.

[Greem]

The wet one is from the back of Coppice looking down towards the Esses - the building is the Exhibition Centre. Your pic appears to be turning in to Redgate.

[Peter Mallett]

I thought it was Coppice to Fogarty but it just seemed too short.

[grantp]

Originally Posted by rbm

What a cracking picture - obviously before I threw the Revis off at Redgate

I wondered where you had got to Richard. It looked like you were going rather well up to that point.

I can't recall whether it was Mr. Titchmarsh or Mr. Pye who suggested, at one point in the commentary, that the bodywork gave you some advantage as it would reduce or eliminate the spray from your front wheels.

I have to say that from where I was standing it didn't look like anything would be much of an advantage in those conditions.

[grantp]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

I thought it was Coppice to Fogarty but it just seemed too short.

Truncated view because of the long lens Peter. 70-200 +2x extender for 400mm on a 1.3x crop body so an 'effective' look that would be provided by a 530mm lens in 35mm terms.

Plus there is a dip on the straight about half way along and in this shot pretty much all the tarmac after the dip up to the Esses is hidden, giving the impression that the straight is shorter than it really is.

[grantp]

Originally Posted by SJWBallistic

Richard
I agree the picture is superb.
I think it was some of the worst conditions I have ever raced in. Not only was the rain heavy, down the two straights we had the evening sun straight in our eyes
Stuart Wright

It did look pretty nasty out there and I have tremendous admiration for all of you for taking to the track.

The low sun provided some great light though.

[SJWBallistic]

Hi Grant
Some great shots. Is there any possibility of you sending me an e-mail with these shots on? Or can I obtain them from you in another way?
Stuart

[percy]

SJWBallistic - what car were you driving? - I'll see if I have any photos of you.

[SJWBallistic]

Hi Percy
I was in car 22 the red Dastle shown in Grant's shots above.
Any shots would be great not that I am vain or anything
Stuart

[grantp]

Originally Posted by SJWBallistic

Hi Grant
Some great shots. Is there any possibility of you sending me an e-mail with these shots on? Or can I obtain them from you in another way?
Stuart

Stuart,

I have a few shots of you - it may take me a day or so to get through processing the entire weekend take. Plus one of my computers seems to have blown up a few minutes ago. Hopefully something trivial but a distraction nonetheless, espcially as it's the one I tend to leave for email activity. I'll be in touch as soon as I have things ready.


Grant

[rbm]

Originally Posted by grantp

I wondered where you had got to Richard. It looked like you were going rather well up to that point.

I can't recall whether it was Mr. Titchmarsh or Mr. Pye who suggested, at one point in the commentary, that the bodywork gave you some advantage as it would reduce or eliminate the spray from your front wheels.

I have to say that from where I was standing it didn't look like anything would be much of an advantage in those conditions.

The bodywork didn't make much of a difference - still couldn't see anything, could just hear the car if front.

The Revis was going very well, had got upto 3rd from a grid of 7th.
I thought it was a very good in the wet right upto the moment I fell off ... thats not fair it was purely driver error, nearly collected JB in the Cousy spun off, caught the spin but stalled - was great fun though.

you never know one of these day I'll get a finish.

[Peter Mallett]

Originally Posted by grantp

Truncated view because of the long lens Peter. 70-200 +2x extender for 400mm on a 1.3x crop body so an 'effective' look that would be provided by a 530mm lens in 35mm terms.

Plus there is a dip on the straight about half way along and in this shot pretty much all the tarmac after the dip up to the Esses is hidden, giving the impression that the straight is shorter than it really is.

Clever. In fact I took a peak at your website after looking at that pic.

[SAMD]

Originally Posted by SJWBallistic

not that I am vain or anything
Stuart

Dont worry Stuart, you sound pretty normal to me

[percy]

SJWBallistic - sorry, I seem to have been preoccupied with a few of the other cars in your race. I'll look out for you next time.

[squadge]

Thank you HSCC, what a great weekend to start the marshalling year. I was the incident officer at post 23 (entry to the chicane) and was glad to see that Derek Smith in his Delta T80 FF2000 was ok after trying to take a different approach to the chicane. Thanks to the other marshals on post 23.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...unscathed.html


Ashley Locke

[Chigley]

obviously before I threw the Revis off at Redgate

Ahhh the intrepid driver who I had predicted could win as you appeared to have more traction. That was until you became somewhat squirrelly and landed up at our feet. The prefect understatement when behind the safety of the barriers was "its very slippery out there"
Race control wondered if we needed the Snatch tractor to get the car off the circuit!!! I think we could have picked the car up and carried to the paddock.

[grantp]

Originally Posted by squadge

Thank you HSCC, what a great weekend to start the marshalling year. I was the incident officer at post 23 (entry to the chicane) and was glad to see that Derek Smith in his Delta T80 FF2000 was ok after trying to take a different approach to the chicane. Thanks to the other marshals on post 23.



Ashley Locke

Hmm. I briefly saw Charlie Wooding's pics of that. Looked like it simply dug in off the high kerb and then flipped.

Interesting that the article, in the Mail web site, seems to have a section that relates to 'The Sun'.

"The father-of-two told The Sun: 'I hit a kerb - and the car launched."

Still, some extra publicity for the race sponsors and it's good to know all is well for Derek.

[midgetman]

"Mr Smith added...'I'll enjoy putting it back together'"

Good job, looks like Iain could do without any more work at the moment

[Rudernst]

Originally Posted by grantp

Hmm. I briefly saw Charlie Wooding's pics of that. Looked like it simply dug in off the high kerb and then flipped.

Interesting that the article, in the Mail web site, seems to have a section that relates to 'The Sun'.

"The father-of-two told The Sun: 'I hit a kerb - and the car launched."

Still, some extra publicity for the race sponsors and it's good to know all is well for Derek.

Does that mean that the - in my opinion absurdly - high kerbs in the Donington Esses have now launched a car properly and claimed a victim as many feared from the beginning ?

I know the MSA had them put in for a reason, I just wonder if - on balance - that reason is good.

I would like to see a concrete run of in stead of at least part of the gravel trap at the Esses as they are nearly allways covered in spilt gravel that can cause the next accident.
You never know what to make of the next You come round in a race.

Bring back plastic bollards if You want to stop racers from cutting the chicane.

Rudolf

[Robert Farrell]

No doubt as a direct result of the lead article by Chairman Chris Sharples in the March HSCC magazine. The "Paddock Etiquette" displayed by all concerned was exemplary.

[simonb87]

I also hit the kerb at the chicane earlier in the day but was more fortunate than the FF2000. I hit it first with my nearside front wheel and was launched over the kerb landing in the gravel sideways. My car stopped and then slowly tipped onto its side - it felt like slow motion from in the car, an Imp in the Historic Touring Car race. Once out, we only needed the gentlest push to put it back on its wheels but the gravel prevented us from being able to remove the car to a place of safety and it stayed in place for the remainder of the race, fortunately without further incident. And virtually no damage....

Note to self - even if you think you can outbrake the mini in front, it won't work if he goes up the escape road!

[grantp]

Originally Posted by simonb87

Note to self - even if you think you can outbrake the mini in front, it won't work if he goes up the escape road!

That's a cunning ploy.

[Peter Mallett]

I saw a lot of folks out brake themselves whilst watching others overcook the chicane.

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[Rudernst]

Originally Posted by Rudernst

Does that mean that the - in my opinion absurdly - high kerbs in the Donington Esses have now launched a car properly and claimed a victim as many feared from the beginning ?

I know the MSA had them put in for a reason, I just wonder if - on balance - that reason is good.

I would like to see a concrete run of in stead of at least part of the gravel trap at the Esses as they are nearly allways covered in spilt gravel that can cause the next accident.
You never know what to make of the next You come round in a race.

Bring back plastic bollards if You want to stop racers from cutting the chicane.

Rudolf

Ähem.....
I fluffed a gearchange in the Esses, spun as result, backwards on to the kerbs, stranded for a moment but could luckyly get going again much to my own surprise.
I expected to feel spinning wheels which would have meant a yellow or red flag.

Rudolf