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Old 26 Jun 2008, 18:49 (Ref:2238238)   #51
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The newest Corvette Z06 arrived as a 2006 model in the third quarter of 2005. It has a 7.0 L (7,008 cc/427.6 in³) version of the Small-Block engine codenamed LS7.the Z06 achieves 16/26 mpg (city/highway), output is 505 hp (376 kW).
GT2 cars have 500bhp+, so whats the problem?

Restrictors are necessary,

a/ To maintain a class structure/performance differential.
b/ A variety of engines can be competitive, otherwise unrestricted turbos would rule.

The Callaway Corvette was cut off in it's prime, now the LG Vette appears to be going that way. Meanwhile Corvette are competing against themselves in GT1.

I think we've been down this route before............
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Old 26 Jun 2008, 19:39 (Ref:2238260)   #52
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the newest Corvette Z06 arrived as a 2006 model in the third quarter of 2005. It has a 7.0 L (7,008 cc/427.6 in³) version of the Small-Block engine codenamed LS7.the Z06 achieves 16/26 mpg (city/highway), output is 505 hp (376 kW).

GT2 cars have 500bhp+, so whats the problem?

Restrictors are necessary,
GT2 Riley Corvette is a LS3, 6,2 liter 376 ci, not an LS7 7 liter 427ci

and puts down 425 RWHP or yes about 500 bhp

The GT1 Corvettes are about 585 bhp but 640 lb ft or torque

or real close to those numbers
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Old 26 Jun 2008, 23:05 (Ref:2238387)   #53
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The Callaway Corvette was cut off in it's prime, now the LG Vette appears to be going that way. Meanwhile Corvette are competing against themselves in GT1.

I think we've been down this route before............
This all may be true, but there seems to be one big difference; the GT1 Corvette Racing program seems to be winding down and Corvette seems to enjoy the exposure the racing program brings them. They may opt for LMP racing and give GT racing short shrift but there is always the chance, with no recognizable Corvettes racing, that a few bucks in the GT2 bucket might be a good investment to keep a recognizable Corvette on the track.

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Old 26 Jun 2008, 23:36 (Ref:2238397)   #54
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If they do go LMP1 (evo), I expect at least some kind of funding or ever a few engineers over to Riley or the whole program moved over to P&M. Good exposure to call the GT2 car a Vette and the LMP1 program a Z06 or ZR-1 Vette. Good way to show even the base Vette is a performance car and market the supercar models; ok, so there isnt much connection to the street versions from the prob GT1 engined car but it's marketing
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Old 27 Jun 2008, 14:16 (Ref:2238765)   #55
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There is a reason Corvette doesn't support a GT2 operation. They don't want to put money into a GT2 car because they gain nothing from it. A Corvette in GT2 has less power than a stock Corvette you off the lot. In GT1 they can experiment with new inovations they can add to the street cars unlike GT2 where its basically a downgraded version of the street car. Ford wants nothing to do with the Ford GT-R because they don't even make the car anymore they would rather put their money into Nascar to reach a bigger audience. Dodge used to back a Viper not too long ago but they also switched thier focus to Nascar and most likely won't be back.
I think you have it backwards. As stated above a stock C6 has much less hp than the race version. It's certainly not a "downgraded" version of the street car. I think GT2 is much more relavent to street cars than GT1.
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Old 27 Jun 2008, 17:56 (Ref:2238887)   #56
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If they do go LMP1 (evo), I expect at least some kind of funding or ever a few engineers over to Riley or the whole program moved over to P&M. Good exposure to call the GT2 car a Vette and the LMP1 program a Z06 or ZR-1 Vette. Good way to show even the base Vette is a performance car and market the supercar models; ok, so there isnt much connection to the street versions from the prob GT1 engined car but it's marketing
P&M has no, and will have no part in the Riley project.
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Old 27 Jun 2008, 18:29 (Ref:2238911)   #57
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And you can guarantee that if GM goes to a prototype? I know there is no involvement now but I'm sure they would welcome the input if some P&M engineers wanted to stay in a GT program
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Old 27 Jun 2008, 20:35 (Ref:2238974)   #58
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I think GT2 is much more relavent to street cars than GT1.
Depends on what GT1 car you are talking about: i'd say the S7 is very relevant to the S7R, as is the MC12, Aston and Lambo. The C6R is the only GT1 car that is decidedly different than its street counterpart.
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Old 28 Jun 2008, 18:28 (Ref:2239356)   #59
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And you can guarantee that if GM goes to a prototype? I know there is no involvement now but I'm sure they would welcome the input if some P&M engineers wanted to stay in a GT program
P&M could start their own Corvette GT2 program, with or without GM's support. GM couldn't "take" the program from Riley, and give it to P&M, since it's not a GM project.
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can the "Callaway" Z06 GT3, entred to GT2 racing with some upgrades, like the ones of the DBRS9 and the Viper CC both in the ALMS ?
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Old 28 Jun 2008, 18:52 (Ref:2239369)   #61
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can the "Callaway" Z06 GT3, entred to GT2 racing with some upgrades, like the ones of the DBRS9 and the Viper CC both in the ALMS ?
No

That car is hologated for GT3 only. Body style and motor are too differnt then GT2 specs

The GT2 vette can not run the 7 liter motor.
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will we see Lou and the gang at PLM?
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Old 19 Aug 2008, 02:46 (Ref:2271281)   #63
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Lets hope so!! Its a massive shame what happened to Lou and his ALMS campaign especially what he sold to start it up so fingers crossed we see the Corvette back in GT2.
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Whats the story with that ? I thought it was finished , or was it just a money issue .

Any news on the Wayne Taylor and the GT2 Corvette story ?

Be great to see them back again ..... Hope they decide to do Le Mans one year .
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It's all a money issue. What else?

Some of the possibilities were outlined in Marshall Pruett's interview with Lou a while back, and from what has been said on DSC and Murphy, what was said still by and large holds true.

I think the Wayne Taylor/GT2 Vette has not had any legs. I did not even think it was a 'story', unless you mean something said glibly in a forum and somehow transformed into a serious rumour.
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It's all a money issue. What else?

Some of the possibilities were outlined in Marshall Pruett's interview with Lou a while back, and from what has been said on DSC and Murphy, what was said still by and large holds true.

I think the Wayne Taylor/GT2 Vette has not had any legs. I did not even think it was a 'story', unless you mean something said glibly in a forum and somehow transformed into a serious rumour.

You never know. IIRC the GT2 vette is built by Riley Technolgies, ( Bill Riley owner) and Wayne Taylor is married to Bill Riley's daughter.
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You never know. IIRC the GT2 vette is built by Riley Technolgies, ( Bill Riley owner) and Wayne Taylor is married to Bill Riley's daughter.
Ha, that didn't keep him from moving from Riley to Dallara in Grand Am...
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Ha, that didn't keep him from moving from Riley to Dallara in Grand Am...
That and the fact that the France empire would doubtless full-court press SunTrust again if they were to attempt to move their sponsorship to the ALMS.
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I though tthat, since the car had gone back to Riley, that they were going to run the car themselves at Petit at the very least, in an attempt to attract more customers.

EDIT: DSC's report on the GT2 regulation changes mentions a Riley/LG partnership for the car at Petit.

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It's all a money issue. What else?
Could have been a contractual issue too
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Could have been a contractual issue too
Well played, sir.

Isn't a contractual issue just a euphemism for a money issue though?
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No ..... for example , the Pheonix racing Lola Audi . That wasnt a money issue at all , there was a dispute between the 2 partys involved , that led to the car never seeing the track again after Le Mans 2007 . And Im sure Audi had something to do with that chassis not racing again .

So , money wasnt the object there .

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A fair point, though a bit of an isolated case to be fair - something to do with J-DD's exceptionally pointed heels (in a very masculine way) cause he clearly had dug them in something exceptional regarding his loyalty to Phoenix (who in fairness CAN screw together a car correctly). I bet money would have solved that too - but even Deletraz's pockets aren't that deep!

There is no real issue there, though Lou and Bill Riley both would confess to having different resources available when it comes to development, I believe. Lou tells it like it is, and he's been totally candid to both Speed and DSC as far as I can tell. It seems like the real sticking point is that Doug Peterson had only committed to half a season and additional finances weren't in place. Doug said that hearing loss was part of it, but he's racing an RX-8 in GARRA now so that seems rather a red herring!

Anyway, the one thing Bill and Lou definitely share is a desire to get that car back on the track, and it seems like they are going to be able to join up at PLM and make that happen. Let's hope that they put two hotshoes in the car with Lou (I'm hoping Curran/Goossens here, but it's my heart talking) and it sits on Dunlops again (or Michelins!) and goes like a train.

PS: I answered the degree question in some other thread. It might be the Acura one, but they all seem the same these days . Get digging!

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I really hope they can get that car back on track again . I must admit , I didnt really like it when it first appeared , like the C6R , didnt like it either , but they both grew on me . What a great addition it is , and to see it at the top of the battle , would be even nicer .

And yes to Goossens , a really nice person to talk with (and a very underestimated driver imo) , Bill Reily too . Bill promised me a Job if they won Le Mans in the Mk.3C ..... ****ed off that didnt happen ..... im still fixin airplanes as a result !!!
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That and the fact that the France empire would doubtless full-court press SunTrust again if they were to attempt to move their sponsorship to the ALMS.
I guess when a sponsor see's your series as a failing investment, it's the France family's fault.

How long until you people blame the France's for global warming and the conflict in Georgia?

It never ends here.
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