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Old 18 Nov 2013, 00:48 (Ref:3332817)   #51
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Be great to see him banging wheels with Seb at Interlagos - just gotta get close to him
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Old 18 Nov 2013, 09:35 (Ref:3332979)   #53
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I think Seb has a plan for next year, make the racing so boring that all the other teams can't raise enough sponsorship to be competative
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Old 19 Nov 2013, 09:04 (Ref:3333499)   #54
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I have a Master Plan to put an end to the Red Bull domination of Formula 1, and it all comes down the root of the matter ......MONEY!!

Now if we all stop buying Red Bull, and buy a rival product instead the company's profits will fall, and Dieter Whatisname will not be able to fund a F1 team and so pull out, leaving Vettel, Newey, Horner et al without a job.

Problem solved.

Of course Ferrari will snap up Newey and Vettel (at least) and go on to dominate Formula 1 for the next ten years, but what is wrong with that?

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Old 19 Nov 2013, 09:36 (Ref:3333512)   #55
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I have a Master Plan to put an end to the Red Bull domination of Formula 1, and it all comes down the root of the matter ......MONEY!!

Now if we all stop buying Red Bull, and buy a rival product instead the company's profits will fall, and Dieter Whatisname will not be able to fund a F1 team and so pull out, leaving Vettel, Newey, Horner et al without a job.

Problem solved.

Of course Ferrari will snap up Newey and Vettel (at least) and go on to dominate Formula 1 for the next ten years, but what is wrong with that?

No need to thank me, it is all part of the service.

Hmm not a bad idea but a simple way would be to super glue Adrian Newey's hands to his buttox
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I have a Master Plan to put an end to the Red Bull domination of Formula 1, and it all comes down the root of the matter ......MONEY!!

Now if we all stop buying Red Bull, and buy a rival product instead the company's profits will fall, and Dieter Whatisname will not be able to fund a F1 team and so pull out, leaving Vettel, Newey, Horner et al without a job.

Problem solved.

Of course Ferrari will snap up Newey and Vettel (at least) and go on to dominate Formula 1 for the next ten years, but what is wrong with that?

No need to thank me, it is all part of the service.
With the Constructors Championship income from winning the series, and the income from Mr Ecclestone's lovebunny team fund... its a wonder that the Red Bull company needs to put a single Euro into the squad
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Old 19 Nov 2013, 11:07 (Ref:3333568)   #57
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With the Constructors Championship income from winning the series, and the income from Mr Ecclestone's lovebunny team fund... its a wonder that the Red Bull company needs to put a single Euro into the squad
You could be right, but what would they call the team?
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One left. It won't happen.
Actually Mr Webber won Brazil in 2009 & 2011.. its an odd year... and... well... it would be nice to see

Do you reckon the King of Red Bull might make it happen for his old mate?

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Old 19 Nov 2013, 11:39 (Ref:3333582)   #60
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Christian Horner: “Mark wouldn’t want to be gifted a win. It would be great for him to win his final race, what a way to sign out, but Sebastian will be going for that record as well. As usual it will be a straight fight between the two of them.”

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Actually Mr Webber won Brazil in 2009 & 2011.. its an odd year... and... well... it would be nice to see

Do you reckon the King of Red Bull might make it happen for his old mate?

That would be sad wouldn't it ?
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Old 19 Nov 2013, 14:01 (Ref:3333639)   #62
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Be great to see him banging wheels with Seb at Interlagos - just gotta get close to him
It would be awesome. But the combination of Webber's poor starts and Vettel's fastest 1st laps, I doubt it. Add to it Webber's KERS problems and catching fire, etc...

I would love to see Webber stick it to him one last time though.
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Old 21 Nov 2013, 00:27 (Ref:3334565)   #64
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The only way Webber could possibly beat Vettel is to change his strategy.

He knows he is unlikely to out qualify Vettel, and he cannot out race Vettel, and his overtaking isn't as good as Vettels.

What he should he do?

He knows Vettel's set up will be to set the fastest possible lap in qualifying!

Set the car up for the race and passing with a higher top ratio to increase his ability to pass under DRS! See if you can run him down in the race!

Going with the same setup as Seb will only end with Seb first!
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Old 21 Nov 2013, 00:35 (Ref:3334570)   #65
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The only way Webber could possibly beat Vettel is to change his strategy.

He knows he is unlikely to out qualify Vettel, and he cannot out race Vettel, and his overtaking isn't as good as Vettels.

What he should he do?

He knows Vettel's set up will be to set the fastest possible lap in qualifying!

Set the car up for the race and passing with a higher top ratio to increase his ability to pass under DRS! See if you can run him down in the race!

Going with the same setup as Seb will only end with Seb first!
I don't see Horner letting that happen, RBR want the 9 in a row.
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Old 21 Nov 2013, 07:04 (Ref:3334657)   #66
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The only way Webber could possibly beat Vettel is to change his strategy.

He knows he is unlikely to out qualify Vettel, and he cannot out race Vettel, and his overtaking isn't as good as Vettels.

What he should he do?

He knows Vettel's set up will be to set the fastest possible lap in qualifying!

Set the car up for the race and passing with a higher top ratio to increase his ability to pass under DRS! See if you can run him down in the race!

Going with the same setup as Seb will only end with Seb first!
Didn't Webber try that in Austin, and look where it got him !
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Old 21 Nov 2013, 07:16 (Ref:3334659)   #67
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Didn't Webber try that in Austin, and look where it got him !
Hi V, I may be missing something, but Webber went toe to toe with Vettel to get pole in Austin, stopped one lap later for tyres and whined that the gearing would not let him get the job done on RoGro.

I think he was on the same strategy as Seb in Austin, or not?
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It doesn't matter what setup Mark goes with or where he qualifies. He will be fifth by turn one, his race over, same as usual. If he wants to race Vettel he needs to at the very least get a decent start.

*cue Webber apologists stampeding in to point out he started well in a race once, six years ago*
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It doesn't matter what setup Mark goes with or where he qualifies. He will be fifth by turn one, his race over, same as usual. If he wants to race Vettel he needs to at the very least get a decent start.

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So Horner's going to gift Webber a win. That's mighty white of him.

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I read that to mean that if Webber wants a win, he's got to earn it by beating Seb fair and square, but there will be no special favours from the pit wall.
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I read that to mean that if Webber wants a win, he's got to earn it by beating Seb fair and square, but there will be no special favours from the pit wall.
I'm quite sure that this will happen... er... I mean, no special favours.
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