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I have no idea at all. It seems SC and motorsport in general is between a rock and a hard place to me with no appealing options. Open wheel racing which does not rely on basing cars on production models seems to be in the box seat. |
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I realise that it's a bit of an ego trip to quote yourself but having given it a bit of thought a series for ex-cab Prius is not quite as stupid an idea as it seem. It taps into the market of people who want to race something cheap and think they can use their technical talents to make their (Postie bike, VW based race car, Gemini, Excel, HQ, old Commodore, add name here) go faster round a circuit than the bloke down the street. More particularly it brings into play a whole new bunch of tech heads who not only fancy themselves with ICEs but have an interest in the software and hardware involved KERS, battery usage in mixed power trains starting at a basic level. The next wave of Australian race engineers. They could be the basis for developing the next generation of motor racing. By the way the Mt Druitt 1942 Dodge ex cab belonged to Don Gibson. Not sure if he was related to later Gibson motor sport stars. |
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I have to ask you for your assessment of when the powers that be in SC have to put their thinking caps on and come up with answer to how they see things beyond the present cars now being used. The power train is a secondary issue that is already defined, sooner or later it will change for batteries, to dream about Hydrogen etc is at this stage wishful thinking. |
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That leads to the question on timeline for SC to work out their direction. Personally I think that the power train is likely to be the key point of decision - with the rest flowing from that. There are quite a few manufacturers still building and planning to keep building mid/large coupes, hatches and sedans but no doubt ideally the manufacturer preference would be to have similar powertrains in race cars to what they are selling. SC has already talked about hybrids and from various statements made, is actively looking now at the future of the cars and what they'd look like etc - so it sounds like it is well and truly being looked at but I suspect that for the same reasons mentioned above, SC won't be able to make any final decisions until directions in the car industry overall become clearer. |
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The title of this thread is where is Motor Racing Headed, and it is understandable that it has, like every thread become focused on Supercars and it's offshoots.
I would suggest that the long term future of people racing one another in some type of vehicle is much more likely to emerge from the grass roots than from corporate, boardroom, or even professional race teams. Finding somewhere to let off a bit of steam legally, and preferably somewhere that you can demonstrate your prowess at doing so, will always be the core of the sport. This discussion should be about how we can ensure that the enthusiasm for doing so, and the willingness to do it in a safe and organised maner is kept alive as the motor industry as we know it goes through generational change. |
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30 Dec 2020, 14:30 (Ref:4025831) | #59 | |
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I think BEV's will be a boon for club racing, not yet but in years to come. No oily bits in the driveline to cost thousands to maintain, it will be easy to ensure everyone has the same power output which is truly linear and the huge maintenance costs go out the window. If the ICE + Gearbox + Diff is taken away things can only get better.
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I have been racing and rallying for about 50 years and the idea of no oily bits to worry about and fix might make me return to the track. I simply got tired of pouring money into the parts of the car that will get replaced with an electric motor. The whole idea sounds like motor racing nirvana to me. On the other hand I certainly am aware that the fans don't like it at all but tracks like Amaroo and OP might have had a longer life if noise was not an issue and the fans were not impressed when they closed down largely because of noise but OP was always doomed for redevelopment anyway. Wakefield Park for all its isolation can still be heard in Goulburn with the right weather conditions and is not flavour of the month with some people who live nearby so I am told. Marulan always had a major issues with noise but most of that would go away with electric vehicles. |
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Why not, sounds as good as any other idea but here the series has always been based on the latest cars and to do anything else radically changes the fan demographic. Perhaps bring back the Ford GTHO and the XU-1? Bathurst of the 1970's in the 2020's perhaps.
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I could quote every one of Casper's posts, and the answer is "2 litre cars". Even the bit about open wheelers, when S5000 is not as big a deal down the track when the realities of racing set in.
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2 litres is merely a capacity. 4 cyl? 6, 12, turbo? DOCH, flat crank, injection or Hybrid? Haven't even considered rev limit. And in what? Truck, go cart...?
You may as well just say 'cars is the answer'. But I'm guessing you have a particular favourite in mind. |
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Specific detail of regs are tailored to the economy and culture of the particular racing scene in the relevant country.
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Go for it, that should give you something to do for no return, at least from me.
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Kinda fits this thread I guess.
Plans to re-zone Sandown as residential land have hit an initial snag with the local council. Who knows? Maybe the track could end up being there longer than expected? |
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This will give you some perspective on where the car market is headed and we can only guess at the repercussions for motor sport. The sad thing is within motor sport there is very little being done to go with the flow. When do you think Super Cars should start planning for the future?
I just don't get how I am going to drive from Brisbane to Darwin in an electric car and any help on this matter would be much appreciated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5GGCVIEYts |
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Development Application stopped due to new State Government developers tax.
The MRC has halted the Development Application process to rezone Sandown whilst it seeks more information from the State Government on newly announced "windfall" developers tax that would cost the club a couple of hundred million if it redevelops Sandown into a residential precinct. Who knows where this may all end up. |
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2Quick charging points should be as common as petrol stations Unfortunately here in redneck wonderland where the government has decided resisting change and getting people paranoid about change is a political winner the world may pass us by. |
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It is becoming very obvious now that quick charging destroys batteries.
The stats say on a Tesla if you fast charge against trickle the additional battery wear is approximately 7% per year. I guess if you have to you have to. |
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Its not headed anywhere, they just go round and round the same track
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