Team Mercedes: Will they ever dominate again? - Page 3

loon · 22 Apr 2019, 11:02 (Ref:3898985)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

Ferrari have lost their way since they went back to being 'Italian'

Why not write them a letter pointing out the error of their ways, i'm sure they will be most grateful.

midgetman · 22 Apr 2019, 14:01 (Ref:3899005)

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Originally Posted by Greem

It still amazes me that we're running races faster on 50% the fuel of a few years ago and nobody is making a really big tub-thumping thing of it. That said, given the BBC Attenborough doco this evening, I'm amazed I'm still allowed to post here...

It's such a shame that Liberty concentrate their marketing on the personalities not the cars. Despite gripes about noise and aero these are awesome machines.

And their reliability is metronomic, so much so that a breakdown is big news. In the "good old days" a back of the grid team could rely on the front runners failing and letting them pick up points. These days there's little chance of Mercedes slipping up, although it looks like we can rely on Ferrari to drop the ball every now and again.

Superb cars.

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**GTRMagic** · 22 Apr 2019, 14:24 (Ref:3899008)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

Ferrari have lost their way since they went back to being 'Italian'

Maybe Mercedes should sell their entire F1 operation to Ferrari?

S griffin · 22 Apr 2019, 14:37 (Ref:3899009)

Well it does make you wonder if Ferrari have the same dedicated workforce back at Maranello that Merc do at Brackley

VIVA GT · 22 Apr 2019, 14:51 (Ref:3899011)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

Well it does make you wonder if Ferrari have the same dedicated workforce back at Maranello that Merc do at Brackley

No, I'm sure they'll be different people

Richard C · 22 Apr 2019, 14:57 (Ref:3899012)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

Ferrari have lost their way since they went back to being 'Italian'

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Originally Posted by S griffin

Well it does make you wonder if Ferrari have the same dedicated workforce back at Maranello that Merc do at Brackley

Jumping in on the nationalistic pejorative comments (tongue in cheek here)

I am confused? Clearly those Italians are just lazy, but is Williams maybe too British or maybe not British enough? And how am I to categorize the Brackley workforce. Why are they successful and Williams not? Aren't they all the same? It's just all to much to understand and to neatly slot into hard categories based upon stereotypes. And don't get me started on those Honda folks!

Oh... what was I typing? I lost track of my thoughts. One of the problem with being an American you know.

Richard

**GTRMagic** · 22 Apr 2019, 15:00 (Ref:3899013)

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Originally Posted by VIVA GT

No, I'm sure they'll be different people

That bloke with the dodgy copy shop all those years ago might have cloned the same people..

Mike Harte · 22 Apr 2019, 15:09 (Ref:3899015)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

That bloke with the dodgy copy shop all those years ago might have cloned the same people..

It's amazing what you can do with a 3D printer nowadays!

Mike Bell · 22 Apr 2019, 16:25 (Ref:3899018)

Casper · 26 Apr 2019, 07:17 (Ref:3899710)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

Ferrari have lost their way since they went back to being 'Italian'

I always reckoned they had chaos embedded in their DNA.

S griffin · 26 Apr 2019, 14:28 (Ref:3899800)

Well it went when they had Todt in control and then added Schumi, Brawn and Byrne too. It made it more organised. Now since they have gone, it's gone back to how it was before

GT6 · 27 Apr 2019, 18:52 (Ref:3900058)

Well they just locked out the top slots again

**Aysedasi** · 27 Apr 2019, 20:11 (Ref:3900071)

Yep. Another woeful performance......

**Adam43** · 27 Apr 2019, 20:58 (Ref:3900078)

One day maybe they’ll manage dominance like they had in the ‘50s. Certainly woeful compared to that.

Zico · 28 Apr 2019, 10:54 (Ref:3900162)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

One day maybe they’ll manage dominance like they had in the ‘50s. Certainly woeful compared to that.

I think the Merc dominance of the 50's speaks volumes more about their competitors ineptitude at that time rather than being "woeful" in the last 5 years.

Ferrari's current situation is a strange one. In testing they have looked like they were going to dominate but for various reasons including poor decision making by the team, they have not been able to capitalise.
Meanwhile Mercedes have made the best strategy decision making as a team, and coupled with a large amount of luck, have made the best start to the season in years.

I think we have all been surprised by it. Will Ferrari get their act together and finally claim the status as being the dominant team this season? Im not so sure now.. Ferrari have a lower drag, higher top speed, lower downforce car acheived by going down the inwash route that seems to have limited their downforce envelope... while Merc have the opposite which seems to be more versatile and perhaps forgiving over a wider range of circuits, fuel load, tyre wear and race conditions.

Ferrari will no doubt also have a fair amount of 1-2 finishes this season when everything lines up for them but I think by having to play catch up, coupled with my above assesment, its going to be Mercs once again.

Akrapovic · 28 Apr 2019, 11:11 (Ref:3900169)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

One day maybe they’ll manage dominance like they had in the ‘50s. Certainly woeful compared to that.

I wish I could do sarcasm as dry as this.

Zico · 28 Apr 2019, 11:57 (Ref:3900185)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

I wish I could do sarcasm as dry as this.

Doh.. despite thinking the OP was a tad deluded or a bit high and me trying not to be rude, I obviously thought he was serious!

Akrapovic · 28 Apr 2019, 12:08 (Ref:3900190)

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Originally Posted by Zico

Doh.. despite thinking the OP was a tad deluded or a bit high and me trying not to be rude, I obviously thought he was serious!

Adam is capable of sarcasm that's dryer than the Sahara.

JacobP · 28 Apr 2019, 16:51 (Ref:3900260)

Can we have this thread closed now?

Anyopenroad · 28 Apr 2019, 18:44 (Ref:3900295)

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Originally Posted by JacobP

Can we have this thread closed now?

Jury is still out. Four 1-2s in a row might just be luck. We need to wait a few more races before we can be sure. Merc failed to get fastest lap today, suggesting a chink in their armour large enough for Leclerc to drive a Ferrari through.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 28 Apr 2019, 19:03 (Ref:3900302)

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Originally Posted by JacobP

Can we have this thread closed now?

I'm a little cautious and would wait until Mercedes have secured both the WDC and WCC. We wouldn't want to tempt fate.

**Aysedasi** · 28 Apr 2019, 19:47 (Ref:3900311)

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Originally Posted by JacobP

Can we have this thread closed now?

No, not while they're performing so badly...... I mean, one of the Mercs only came second. Heads will roll.....

seanyb505 · 28 Apr 2019, 20:10 (Ref:3900331)

S griffin · 28 Apr 2019, 21:33 (Ref:3900355)

Well to be fair they got a bit lucky in Bahrain, but the signs aren't looking good for the rest atm.

Taxi645 · 28 Apr 2019, 22:57 (Ref:3900369)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

Well to be fair they got a bit lucky in Bahrain, but the signs aren't looking good for the rest atm.

Depending on the effectivness of the RB upgrade in Barcelona I wouldn't be surprised they will overall become the strongest car.

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