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17 Nov 2009, 11:25 (Ref:2583450) | #51 | |
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house prices are in essence all relative that extra 500 quid is the equivelant to 12% more
so if you where buying today at £350 k you would need an extra £37/8k not an easy task and today mortgages are easier to get today than back then when you HAD to have saved 20% deposit PLUS been with bank /Building society for 2 years or more and THEN queue up for a mortgage and it was a privilege to be offered one! Once you had been given one the manager then gave you a speech about paying the mortgage on time and he will be watching your account |
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17 Nov 2009, 12:15 (Ref:2583472) | #52 | |
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are you saying the gallon of fuel was 5 shillings? im told a shilling was equal to 5 new pence £1 in old money was not 100 pennies like a Decimal pound you probably recall moaning like everyone else when your old money was decimalised and things cost more this is what the french belgians italians germans have told me happened with the euro and for 4 years they worke din old currency to calculate new euro price even today my german mate quotes what they sold in D mark for the BMW piston crank rods i seek then give sme euro cost |
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would you prefer to have lived thru the 60`s and 70s as a young person or have to deal with the crepe we have had the last 20 years
some things are easier now some way to easy ( ie credit and look at the mess folk get into) i think back then folk appreciated what they had and how they earned it Motorsport was a lot cheaper in the 70`s to do than it is now im sure in the 60`s it was more expensive but they did get good gate $ and paid start money or prize money to offset the overall expense was it the sport of wealthy chaps? I know back then the emphasis on property was different to the way it is now many people rented and values did not go up a great deal in a short time frame so "disposable" income was possibly more then but cars where expensive? |
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Jesper. Special Saloons, and Hot Rods are completely different animals. If your thinking American Hot Rods, there may be a connection way, way back, but here in the UK, I believe that the guys that were just ahead of me in time, say the very early sixties, were the originators of Special Saloons. If you look at the photographs taken of yours truly at Brands or say, Mallory in the very early sixties you'll see we ran pretty ordinary "done-up-a-bit" road smokers. The cars altered literally week by week, as we all tried out bits we either made at home, or managed to pick up from the crumbs of the big formula teams. We travelled miles to go and collect things such as a set of valves that "Jack" at Cosworth had going cheap, or to go and see a new way of locking up a diff, or buy a set of wheel spacers! it was all so new, and we really were attempting to get the very best from our cars without spending the kind of money it went on to cost later. So, in my opinion, we were the pioneers, the instigators, the forerunners, the creators of what became known as SPECIAL SALOONS. Finally, yes, we had some very bad accidents, and lovely people were injured, badly. Pioneers like Brian Tarrant, sadly lost his life, dear Peter Proctor sadly badly burned, and many more in those far off early days, but when they stopped Special Saloons, they stopped these innovators. Never again will we see a grid full of cars that we all knew had been created to do just one thing, GO FASTER THAN THE NEXT BLOKE. No strings attached.
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I know, absolutely right matey. Also, remember NO Transporters...well, we did have an old commer coach toward the end of 1975. Talk about luxury!
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24 Nov 2009, 23:36 (Ref:2588733) | #60 | |
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ah yes the front engined coach as a transporter that you could drive on car licence but it was never prooved if it was legal or illegal but if you had seats on the coach to carry passengers you needed a PSV licence !!
oh they where the days when it didnt matter too much but now some fkwit ashtol left wing labour treehugging lesbian will create an over night new law banning it |
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25 Nov 2009, 13:35 (Ref:2589014) | #61 | |
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From talking to one long since retired engine builder, and others, who still tread the boards!, modifiying and maximising potential from stock parts was very prevalant, in many cases alternatives just wheren't available, unless Daddy worked at Cosworth!
I suppose trawling parts bins in freindly dealerships went on? which probably paved the way for the gp5 reg of family parts? It may be a dustbin lid cmpared to standard size but it is a ford valve . . . |
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25 Nov 2009, 19:11 (Ref:2589159) | #62 | ||
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I used to trawl scrap yards for old 711 blocks for my formula ford. Unfortunately I think they've all gone now
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26 Nov 2009, 17:32 (Ref:2589783) | #63 | |
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last time I found a MK1 in a breakers yard was ten years ago . . . most of the scrappers are on ebay now, as are all the scrap engine components, usually filed under 'race'
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28 Nov 2009, 11:46 (Ref:2590707) | #64 | ||
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The LUXURY Transporter!
If (and its a big IF) I can get the picture uploaded onto the page, here's a photograph of the last word in transporters circa 1966! All mod cons were to hand, a roof, two ramps, oh, and two old cushions in the cab to block off the cold air vents. The drivers seat was held up by five old telephone directories...ask Chief Paddock Marshal Alf Glasser, he travelled all the way to Brands Hatch in it. Not an experience he enjoyed at all. But it was cheap and got us around the tracks. If I can manage to get the picture uploaded, its interesting to note that the small boy with the spanner is now heading toward his fifties!
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Oak ramps Gerry, sheer luxury!
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Hi Guys, well i believe the viva to be driven by one Bernie Harris, it had a buick 4 litre v8 engine(i think), i didn't know him at this point, he then went on to own and race Dave Brodies wide bodied capri mk2 with a gaa engine!! regards mark (colin stubbs has some photos of the viva in action)
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sadly Bernie is no longer with us to ask him but i would be surprised if he was racing in 1966 i didnt think he started till the mid to late 70`s
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probably at silverstone
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2 Jan 2010, 16:48 (Ref:2607391) | #71 | ||
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I would say that it's not Tony Lanfranchi driving. When he drove the Fraser's he had a blue front panel, and you can also see on the larger photo that the helmet is plain white. I would imagine it's Ray Calcutt or Nick Britten driving, possibly even Bernard Unett who did a couple of events in 1965 (which is, if I read the thread correctly the year of this photo)
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More pictures from the old days.
Just looking through an old scrap book, and came across these. I wonder who was driving the mini in the picture taken at WOODCOTE Silverstone? That's my old adversay Peter Baldwin behind me in Baby "B" one, but who was driving the white Imp?
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great pics love the 2nd one check out your driving position, commited to the corner!
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25 Oct 2010, 18:39 (Ref:2780349) | #75 | ||
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Blimey! I do look as if I mean it don't I? But then so does Pete and the Imp driver too.
Peter is/was a really excellent and sportsmanlike driver (in my opinion anyway) he and I had some really great dices at Silverstone and Mallory Park. Lovely picture of your car Big Andy. Cheers lads. |
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