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17 Sep 2022, 08:58 (Ref:4126313) | #51 | |
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There's no gurantee Ricciardo wants to go there
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19 Sep 2022, 12:00 (Ref:4126488) | #55 | |
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From the outside he hasn't exactly set the world on fire. We spend all day whinging about no new blood in F1 and here's a chance for new and we're going with Ric for the ride over new.
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My guess as to why it will be hard for DR to get a new ride is that he has shown that he is struggling to adapt to the McLaren. If I was looking at him, why would I not also wonder if he might have the same issue in my car?
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20 Sep 2022, 06:27 (Ref:4126553) | #57 | |
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Let's not forget he won a race only last year. So he probably could still the job in the right car. The question is whether he's going to get another chance
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I think you’re “probably” is more a “possibly”.That combined with his age is why he won’t get another chance.
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Surely before signing any team would at least put him in the sim?
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Lando's results over the last couple of years and DR's results on occasion have shown that the car is more capable than the championship points would suggest.... does he deserve another chance based on overall a reputation based off results that seem a long time ago now. |
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Overall, I think to be successful in F1, you have to perform well not just in cars that suit you, but be also to adapt to those that done. And your performance needs to be consistent (not good one week and bad the next). The evidence just seems to point to him just struggling to adapt to a car that doesn't suit him, occasionally shows true speed, but overall, is not on par with a Lando. The real question is... As Lando gets more experience... Is it that Lando is just that good or that Daniel is just that bad? I can see him getting a drive somewhere, but there just seems to be a number of new drivers that teams might think are on the upswing and willing to gamble on, but maybe not to gamble on someone who is maybe on the downswing. Does anyone really think that Daniel is going to radically change if he goes to a new team? I apologize if this seems harsh. I have nothing against him, but I am trying to look at this logically. And competition for F1 seats is a dog eat dog world. Especially if you are not bringing sponsorship money to the team (i.e. pay driver) Richard Last edited by Richard C; 22 Sep 2022 at 03:30. |
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It seems much more complex for a teams and drivers to find that balance between consistent performance.
Bottom line is it really does seem that most of the big teams design their cars to suit the lead driver and expect both drivers to get on with it. It used to be that cars were designed to be as good as possible for BOTH the drivers to be able to get the best from. |
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The top drivers tend to adapt to whatever a car is doing no matter what. However most seem to have a particular style that means they need the car set up the right way. And it has quite often been the case that a car has been designed with one driver in mind, however not always. Usually the other driver though can find the right set up
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I confess to being a huge fan of Daniel. I am puzzled by his time at McLaren and am left wondering if it really is a matter of the car not suiting him or if Lando is simply that much better than him.
His time at Renault was actually pretty good if you compare to performances against his team mate. He beat the Hulk (who had recently seen off Sainz) and then destroyed Ocon who is currently doing a better job against Alonso (recognising it was Ocon’s first year back after a lay off). Obviously his record at RB was outstanding. While most would view that Max was getting on top of him by the third season it wasn’t like the gaps Max has had on Gasly, Albon and Perez and a one eyed supporter like me could mount a case he was still Max’s equal ? I simply can’t reconcile the years at McLaren with his prior CV. I suspect people like Zak Brown and Andreas Seidl are feeing the same (albeit with more insight into the detail of why Lando is giving him a hiding). Unfortunately for Daniel, I suspect most other team principals will also be puzzled and reluctant to take a punt on him (but I hope someone does). |
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But is it really true that the 1997 FW19 didn't suit HHF, or rather than HHF just isn't as good as JV? It's a muddly one. The roles were, of course, reversed in 1999 when HHF easily outperformed Hill in the Jordan. Then Coulthard disadvantaged by a car tailored for Hakkinen or maybe Hakkinen was just better? But then Coulthard outperformed Hakkinen in 2001 when the car went the other way. Then you have claims Ferrari didn't give Raikkonen what he wanted in 2008 hence why Massa was able to match him on average... But then once Massa was out in 2009, the car was developed to Raikkonen and he was able to work miracles, e.g., winning Spa. It's a mess to decipher the sort of thing you refer to. |
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James Key noted that the McLaren is weak with trail braking, yet Daniel seems to have difficulty with successfully dropping his trail braking habits and adopting the braking technique of Norris. I.e., the McLaren has unusually large downforce loss in yaw so it is best to maximise the phases of the corner -- braking and traction -- when the car has minimum slip angle. Trying to lean on the car in yaw (combined turning and braking or combined turning and traction) simply results in Ricciardo literally extracting less downforce and having less grip than Norris finds. |
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De Vries tested with Alpine this week (along with Gio and Doohan) but not seen any reports of how that turned out. Hopefully Doohan was in the test more as preparation to becoming reserve for next year, and nothing more than that. Realistically it seems Danny's options are Haas and Williams. Or the sabbatical he has said he might take. The problem with taking a sabbatical is what might be open for 2024. Hamilton has indicated he will do another contract extension with Merc. and that he has no thoughts of retirement. Last edited by E.B; 24 Sep 2022 at 01:51. |
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Danny would find it hard to come back in 2024, unless a new team enters....
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His age and recent results both say he’s done. |
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Well yes I guess we could say that more successful drivers have retired even when younger than Dam is now.
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And yet Hulkenberg is older, has achieved far less, spent more time out of F1 than in in recent years, but seems to be the preferred option at Haas.
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