sports sedans in 2009 - Page 3

Sheep Stations · 10 Mar 2009, 03:24 (Ref:2412735)

That would have been Tony Quinn in his GT car...wasn't allowed to do Friday practice at MP because he wasn't entered in the state round...shame.

I agree with you a 100% about running Porsches with the SS at state level. The black Chiron is fast...and almost invisible. Especially when taking self-imposed drive through's to play with the traffic. I would rather be chasing some big V8 unit I can see...or have it fill my mirrors.

Silver 3 · 10 Mar 2009, 06:16 (Ref:2412758)

I reckon 4 pages of 2009 SS dominated by Porsche talk isn't bad going. You would think nothing was happening in that SS world. How about a few in the know filling us in on a few of the whizz bang 09 potential debutants.

profi · 10 Mar 2009, 06:26 (Ref:2412761)

An old escort driver is coming out in an old escort with a turbo engine

Backagain · 10 Mar 2009, 21:23 (Ref:2413249)

Heard a rumour about a new SS being built, supposed to be well engineered but I think they're pulling my leg saying it's a Hyundai Excel, can't be true can it ?

profi · 11 Mar 2009, 01:42 (Ref:2413342)

ive head the same rumor where did you hear this???????????

Backagain · 11 Mar 2009, 03:23 (Ref:2413364)

Must have been on another forum. Love the idea, totally in the spirit of SS, reminiscent of the Renault 750, Hillman Imp, VW sports sedans of the early days. There was even a twin engined Goggomobil trying to get in but he was relegated to Formula Libre.

profi · 11 Mar 2009, 03:40 (Ref:2413371)

ahhh sprung

mildura1963 · 11 Mar 2009, 06:22 (Ref:2413408)

Photos of excel located in supercar liveries area..

profi · 11 Mar 2009, 08:46 (Ref:2413457)

Anyone else know of new cars.

profi · 11 Mar 2009, 11:18 (Ref:2413553)

Has anyone had there sports sedan out testing yet. Everyone seems to be keeping quiet. Maybe the porsche bloke needs to stir the pot again

Backagain · 11 Mar 2009, 21:17 (Ref:2413889)

Profi:
Who's the invisible bloke holding the screwdriver ?

davelise · 11 Mar 2009, 21:17 (Ref:2413890)

Couple of SS spotted at Wakefield yesterday getting ready for NSW series next weekend at EC.

profi · 11 Mar 2009, 21:25 (Ref:2413895)

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Originally Posted by davelise

Couple of SS spotted at Wakefield yesterday getting ready for NSW series next weekend at EC.

Were they Steve's Toyshop cars and if so were they new cars?

Silver 3 · 11 Mar 2009, 22:04 (Ref:2413921)

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Originally Posted by profi

Has anyone had there sports sedan out testing yet. Everyone seems to be keeping quiet. Maybe the porsche bloke needs to stir the pot again

Don't know how you could suggest such a thing. Those that do know of new cars or even the revamped reappearers --how about some details?

profi · 12 Mar 2009, 05:22 (Ref:2414092)

I cant say anything because i dont own the cars but there would have to be at least 5-10 new cars being built in victoria.

Silver 3 · 12 Mar 2009, 06:51 (Ref:2414101)

So far we have an Escort & a Hyundai!!!! That is really going to get us excited.
Hey-this is an anon forum-- who is going to know if you tell us what is happening?

DAVID PATERSON · 12 Mar 2009, 07:00 (Ref:2414103)

I'm going to the Shannon's National round at Wakefield Park on Anzac Day weekend. Does anyone know if Ricciardello & Hossack will be there?

profi · 12 Mar 2009, 08:04 (Ref:2414119)

Monaro
Honda Prelude
Mr2
RX7
Hyundai
Escort
Saab
Aston Marton
Datsun 1000
Mustang
180sx
Porsche 911

Heres a few

cavvy · 4 Apr 2009, 00:56 (Ref:2432878)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Backagain

Must have been on another forum. Love the idea, totally in the spirit of SS, reminiscent of the Renault 750, Hillman Imp, VW sports sedans of the early days. There was even a twin engined Goggomobil trying to get in but he was relegated to Formula Libre.

Alive & well with Dick Ward - the Fiat Abarth Rotary won in Asia, rear engined & as fine an example of a historic sports sedan as there is today:

http://www.speedwest.net/

& a bit of background care of www.terrywalkersplace.com

He found work in the UK at Radbourne's, importers of exotic vehicles, and was pleasantly surprised to discover a rolled-over Fiat Abarth 850 gathering dust in a corner. It had been raced, and crashed, by a Dutch team. The Abarth was based on the Fiat 600D body, so Dick did a deal, and built the Abarth specialist bits (including the 850cc Abarth twin-cam engine) into his Fiat 600D bodyshell.

Back in Australia in 1971, Dick took the Fiat Abarth racing at Wanneroo Park, with the rear engine cover propped open in approved (and necessary) fashion. The 850cc twin-cam engine didn't have enough power to make the little car competitive against rivals running V8s, who could haul past easily on the steep climb out of Kolb, and replacements for the unique Abarth components proved impossible to obtain. When the Abarth engine died it was replaced by a very hot Sampson Corolla engine, tuned by John Hagarty, which was in turn superseded by a Rotomotion-built Mazda 13B rotary.

Left: Originally a Fiat-Abarth 850cc twin-cam, this car was extensively revised and fitted with a stove-hot Samson Toyota Corolla racing engine and Hewland box. Wanneroo Park, 1976 (Walker); Right: By 1980 it was running a Rotomotion built Mazda Rotary, which transformed the car (WASCC collection).

The rotary engine transformed the little car immediately, and also transformed Dick Ward into a nationally and internationally recognised racing driver. By now the original Fiat-based running gear was long gone, with special rose-jointed racing wishbones and coil-over-shocks mounted on a tubular subframe at the front, and another subframe supporting a Hewland 5-speed and the rotary engine at the rear.

Dick Ward and his small team looked for competition outside Western Australia, and one venture was contesting a season or two of sports sedan racing at Sydney's Amaroo Park. This involved trailing the car to NSW, racing for the weekend, and trailing it back again. This was followed by the Twin-State Challenge, a South Australia vs Western Australia Sports Sedan series. A team of WA cars would be loaded onto a transporter, the drivers, crew and families would board a chartered coach, and head off to the Adelaide International Raceway for one leg of the Challenge, and a team of SA drivers would do the same for the other leg, held at Wanneroo Park. Dick Ward and the tiny left-hand-drive Fiat were dominant.

Top Left: In March 1982 Dick Ward (Fiat Abarth RE rotary) handily won the Jackie Stewart Super Sedan Road Race in Jakarta, and is shown here being congratulated by Jackie Stewart himself. (Dick Ward collection). Top right; another win in his Asian racing, this time in the RX7 (Dick Ward collection); Bottom left: By now he was so famous in the region that his car featured on race programme covers. Bottom right: at home, his first really big win was the Pepsi-Cola 300 km race (Tony Burton/WASCC)

Even more ambitious, and successful, was his venture into Asian racing. An early triumph was winning the sports sedan event at the Jackie Stewart Road Race, held on a Jakarta street circuit in 1981, which was to be the last full season for the tiny Fiat.

Falcadore · 4 Apr 2009, 02:02 (Ref:2432901)

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Originally Posted by Silver 3

You should organise a trial at state level to let them cross enter on invited basis. Would boost the numbers.

You can already do that in Queensland. Sports Sedan and Invited. Ask for an invite. You never know. Already had a few non-SS cars race in the 2008 series.

Bullett · 4 Apr 2009, 08:41 (Ref:2432998)

In late april the vic state series kicks off at Phillip Island, this is the (small) entry list as at 1/4...

Michael Robinson - Holden Monaro
Ian Rice - Holden Commodore
Rod Smith - Ford Falcon
Terry Hamilton - Holden Commodore
Graeme Gilliland - Mazda RX7
Laurie Davidson - Toyota Soarer
Michael West - Holden Commodore
Damian Johnson - Holden Torana
Darden Brown - Mitsubishi Galant

profi · 4 Apr 2009, 09:28 (Ref:2433025)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Backagain

Profi:
Who's the invisible bloke holding the screwdriver ?

some mongrel was stealing my ideas so i got rid of him.

anyway heres a proposed pic of my hyundai.

profi · 4 Apr 2009, 09:37 (Ref:2433033)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullett

In late april the vic state series kicks off at Phillip Island, this is the (small) entry list as at 1/4...

Michael Robinson - Holden Monaro
Ian Rice - Holden Commodore
Rod Smith - Ford Falcon
Terry Hamilton - Holden Commodore
Graeme Gilliland - Mazda RX7
Laurie Davidson - Toyota Soarer
Michael West - Holden Commodore
Damian Johnson - Holden Torana
Darden Brown - Mitsubishi Galant

Theres a few cars that are touch and go to make it to that weekend.

4 cars possibly.

hgmonaro · 6 Apr 2009, 00:00 (Ref:2434700)

Quote:

Originally Posted by KineticEnergy

I certainly remember that specific race. A couple of very quick drivers in very very quick cars.

I remember it too... I was there and have the {crappy} photo's too. The best non-kart race I've witnesed.

Crash Test · 6 Apr 2009, 00:21 (Ref:2434716)

Hey, have we figured out who is the brains behind having Sports Sedan state championship meetings in Victoria, New South Wales and Queensland on the same weekend as the Nationals in New South Wales?

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