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Old 20 Jun 2022, 16:57 (Ref:4116446)   #51
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I think S Griffin's query was related to WSR only? Agreed - not in doubt at all regarding Turkington's participation.

Lloyd (I think) is more about budget than medical clearance I am hearing - unless the financials have been resolved now?
The story I heard is that the crash aggravated his pre-existing back problems. I'm sure a few IOC-approved painkillers will solve the problem.
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Old 20 Jun 2022, 17:23 (Ref:4116449)   #52
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There's a substitute driver for Parfitt, who is busy elsewhere. And I'm told another driver will miss Croft too.
Guess we don't know yet, but surely 'being busy' doesn't count as force majeure?
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Old 20 Jun 2022, 17:41 (Ref:4116451)   #53
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Entry list for Croft. Some changes to drivers…

https://www.barc.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/HQ55-Croft-BTCC-Entry-List-v2-20-06-2022-WEBSITE.pdf
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Old 20 Jun 2022, 17:50 (Ref:4116452)   #54
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Guess we don't know yet, but surely 'being busy' doesn't count as force majeure?
Which is why another driver is in the car. Force Majeure means the car is withdrawn
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Old 20 Jun 2022, 18:37 (Ref:4116456)   #55
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Entry list for Croft. Some changes to drivers…

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So Gornall replacing Butel, that's a great move.

Thought it may have been Boardley back in the Infiniti.
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Old 20 Jun 2022, 18:37 (Ref:4116457)   #56
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Which is why another driver is in the car. Force Majeure means the car is withdrawn
Ah my bad, I meant as grounds for keeping the TBL? Weren't you prohibited from two driver swaps?
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Old 20 Jun 2022, 18:45 (Ref:4116458)   #57
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So Gornall replacing Butel, that's a great move.

Thought it may have been Boardley back in the Infiniti.
Look again…..it’s not just Butel that’s replaced
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Old 20 Jun 2022, 18:47 (Ref:4116459)   #58
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Look again…..
? Gornall for Butel and Boardley for Parfitt?
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Old 20 Jun 2022, 18:48 (Ref:4116460)   #59
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? Gornall for Butel and Boardley for Parfitt?
Yep, looks that way.

And Turkington and Lloyd also listed as entries, but will we see them race?
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Old 20 Jun 2022, 18:51 (Ref:4116461)   #60
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Yep, looks that way.

And Turkington and Lloyd also listed as entries, but will we see them race?
Wonder if Gornall is just for one round or has Butel packed it in?

Reckon Turkington will make it, less sure about Lloyd.


Max Coates will be racing in the little MINIs and Sam Smelt in the Porsche Caymans too,
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Old 20 Jun 2022, 20:08 (Ref:4116465)   #61
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Lloyd has confirmed he’ll be racing at Croft, on his YouTube channel he confirmed
the car will cost £95k plus VAT to fix
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Old 20 Jun 2022, 20:26 (Ref:4116466)   #62
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Lloyd has confirmed he’ll be racing at Croft, on his YouTube channel he confirmed
the car will cost £95k plus VAT to fix
Wow fair play
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Old 20 Jun 2022, 20:29 (Ref:4116467)   #63
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To put that into perspective, he had budgeted £40k for damages across the whole season.
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Old 20 Jun 2022, 20:31 (Ref:4116468)   #64
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To put that into perspective, he had budgeted £40k for damages across the whole season.
I will put it out there - he's definitely showing his commitment to the series.
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Old 21 Jun 2022, 09:46 (Ref:4116515)   #65
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Great that Lloyd continues. It looks like he's extremely tight on budget but his season's been really good so far being effectively driver no 2 in Excelr8 so great he can carry on. And yes, what a commitment.

Wonder what's behind Butel's exit.
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Old 21 Jun 2022, 11:34 (Ref:4116522)   #66
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[QUOTE=Matt K;4116515]Great that Lloyd continues. It looks like he's extremely tight on budget but his season's been really good so far being effectively driver no 2 in Excelr8 so great he can carry on.

Maybe Rob Collard stumped up
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Old 21 Jun 2022, 11:38 (Ref:4116523)   #67
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Maybe Rob Collard stumped up
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Why would Rob Collard be funding Dan Lloyd's drive?
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Old 21 Jun 2022, 11:52 (Ref:4116524)   #68
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Anyone know if Butel is just missing one round or if he's out for the season
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Why would Rob Collard be funding Dan Lloyd's drive?
Presumably because it was Ricky he got tangled with. But Lloyd was at fault (and admitted as much), so there's no reason for the Collard's to be paying up!
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Old 21 Jun 2022, 12:12 (Ref:4116528)   #70
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Wonder what's behind Butel's exit.
I can think of a reason....!
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So Turkington is back in chassis 1, which the owner has given permission for it to be used. Wonder who the owner is.
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EDIT - Sorry, touringlegend beat me to it.

WSR are hoping to get 006 back if it is repairable in time for Knockhill
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I meant to post earlier about the cars in question to say that it all really boils down to how busy Willie Poole, or whoever the teams in question use, is/are to whether he or they can get the cars in to their workshops to straighten out the basic structure or replace bits that are beyond salvage. I say this as I believe, rightly or wrongly, that none of the teams do that work in-house.
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I don't udnerstand how a team like WSR doesn't have any spare chassis around ?!

they have 3 cars of their own plus the two Cicely ones so it's a very high probability that something like this happens to one of them
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I don't udnerstand how a team like WSR doesn't have any spare chassis around ?!

they have 3 cars of their own plus the two Cicely ones so it's a very high probability that something like this happens to one of them
Short answer - £££

Long answer. Ciceley have purchased their cars, so they are no longer connected to the WSR entry.
The MB car is to a certain extent a separate entry. The reduced BMW branding means that there would need to be agreement from MB to run the car under the team BMW banner. MB would potentially (and justifiably) cut their support if WSR did that.
Which means they are (for all intents and purposes) budgeted as a 2-car entry.

So if you are budgeting to run 2 cars, building a spare makes little sense.

A few days ago you raised a concern that a reduction in backing from BMW would see Turkington without a drive. But you also don't understand why they haven't allocated budget for a spare car? Maybe they would have one if they budgeted less for their lead driver?
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