Super Tourer Challenge Races - Page 3

avro · 18 Jan 2004, 16:38 (Ref:842450)

Garry, Why are the rates differant to the foreign racers ?, and what are the conditions for the tyres ?.

My understanding is that most of the foreign race teams tend to be better funded that teams at our level here in the UK, or maybe I'm missing something.

garry · 18 Jan 2004, 20:23 (Ref:842638)

Reason why there is a different rate for foreign drivers is that they obviously have a lot further to travel and their expenses will be greater than ours.
Conditions for the tyres is that you have to buy 4 tyres to get the 2 free ones.
I am not aware that any foreign teams are better funded than us as all the drivers interested are club drivers the same as us.

garry · 3 Feb 2004, 18:31 (Ref:861650)

Entry forms are now available for this event. If anyone is interested please contact me on 07768 455105 or glwoodcock@btinternet.com

loungelizard · 3 Mar 2004, 20:26 (Ref:892770)

We now have a provisional time table for this meeting.
There will be 1 x 30 min Qualifying at 10.30am and 1 x 25 min race at 3pm on the Saturday and 1 x 25 min race at 11.30am and 1 x 30 min final at 3pm on the Sunday.
There is also a pit lane walkabout on the Sunday lunchbreak.
There will be 3 classes for 2 litre normally aspirated super tourers (a) 1997-2002, (b) 1993-1996, (c) 1990-1992,
(d) invitation class for Touring cars from 1990 that do not comply with the other classes including older DTM cars.
Technical scrutineer will have final say on whether a car is acceptable to this class.
We have interest from 20 cars at the moment and hope to have at least 22 cars.

avro · 31 May 2004, 11:10 (Ref:989109)

Garry, How many entries do you have to date ?, I can confirm that both our cars will be entering in class B, be good to see this thread live again with some updates over the next few weeks.

Look forward to seeing you there !!!!!!!!!!

100%hondafan · 4 Jun 2004, 10:02 (Ref:993672)

ok kool im confincing my mum to take me also does it class with britcar ??

if not i will not be able to make it but also i asked a friend whos dad runs an audi a4 and he asked his dad and he is thinkin about it and will speak to his driver plus can you post a list of cars drivers so far for all the youring car events as this will convince my mum to take me if she sees lots of cars hehe

garry · 4 Jun 2004, 14:32 (Ref:993931)

Entry so far
Class A
Tony Brass 2000 Audi
Jonathan Younge 99 Nissan
Martin Simms 99 Nissan
Garry Woodcock 98 Nissan
Michael Woodcock 98 Nissan
Colin Woodcock 97 Nissan
Jim Pocklington 97 Nissan
Class B
Andy Clarkin 96 Honda
Peter Challis 96 Nissan
Derek Hale 96 Nissan
Jare Gasland 96 BMW
Bjorn Martinsen 96 Vauxhall
Thomas Hauge 95 Nissan
Richard Hawkin 94 Vauxhall
Class D
Alvin Powell 93 Mondeo 2.2

Hopefulls
Tim Watson 2000 Mondeo
Steve Papworth 99 Mondeo
Don Grice 93 DTM BMW
Julian Rouse 92 Mercedes DTM
James Mc Allister 94 BMW
Jeff Allam Ex Tom Walkinshore Rover

cannardd · 4 Jun 2004, 20:13 (Ref:994195)

Hi Garry, no sign of Terry's 2001 Alfa 156 on that list yet...

or even the 1998 Alfa 156 that is up in Scotland.

David

avro · 4 Jun 2004, 20:37 (Ref:994215)

Terry's 156 is up for sale, its in Autosport this week !!!!! never to race again I dare say.

Garry, No Graham Coombes, Keith Butcher or Barclay Dougall ?

cannardd · 4 Jun 2004, 20:51 (Ref:994229)

I heard that it was for sale.
The 1998 156 has also been for sale (and unused) for over 2-years now!
It is a shame that Terry has never raced it since he got it 18-months ago...

garry · 5 Jun 2004, 09:11 (Ref:994527)

Graham Coomes has no one to run him for snetterton and does not want to use his spare engine for snet as he is doing well in the Dutch Super Car Challenge. Keith and Barclay are on Holiday that weekend.
Th e1998 156 is now owned by someone else who does not have the money to run it this year but should be out next year in Formula ST.

100%hondafan · 5 Jun 2004, 10:47 (Ref:994587)

nice a fare few cars so far hopefully more on the way and i will most lily be there watching also will they all be in the same race ??

and the julian rouse car will be able to keep up with the class a cars if it races a i should think so will that be in that class ?

kmchow · 5 Jun 2004, 18:36 (Ref:994837)

What's a Alvin Powell 93 Mondeo 2.2?

2.2L Mondeo???

**touringlegend** · 5 Jun 2004, 20:57 (Ref:994955)

I'd imagine Alvin Powell is the driver...

Tony_Simpson · 5 Jun 2004, 21:13 (Ref:994972)

Quote:

Originally posted by kmchow
What's a Alvin Powell 93 Mondeo 2.2?

2.2L Mondeo???

It was one of the Mondeos that Andy Rouse originally built, that Alvin bought, possibly one of the cars that Paul Radisch (spelling) raced to world cup success. Part of the package was a development engine that was at 2.2litres. From what I have read it is no more powerful but has improved torque characteristics.

Alvin used to race the car in Formula Saloons and has doen this year in the Welsh racing drivers series, and I think is one of the cars on the front page of the Formula Saloons website.

Hope that helps.

kmchow · 5 Jun 2004, 23:25 (Ref:995044)

Quote:

Originally posted by Tony_Simpson
It was one of the Mondeos that Andy Rouse originally built, that Alvin bought, possibly one of the cars that Paul Radisch (spelling) raced to world cup success. Part of the package was a development engine that was at 2.2litres. From what I have read it is no more powerful but has improved torque characteristics.

But ST didn't allow 2.2L? Does that mean there was internal discussions about increasing the displacement? Why else would Ford develop such an engine?

redshoes · 6 Jun 2004, 09:51 (Ref:995202)

Didn't think the 2.2 was a Ford development.

Part of the reaon for now using that engine is (in thery) cost and durability. It's not as highly developed as a proper ST engine and therefore less expensive to build/maintain.

garry · 6 Jun 2004, 10:27 (Ref:995234)

The 2.2 was used for the world cup races. There are other 2.2 engines around but we have a way now of checking if an engine is a 2.2.

HJC · 14 Jun 2004, 15:43 (Ref:1003724)

A couple of Belgians who have a Super Tourer:

Dries Heyman: Volvo S40 '97 Belgian Race Invest(currently races in Belcar)
Contact info: http://users.pandora.be/driesco/Website/contact.htm

Marc Lupant: BMW 320i '97 Euromaster Racing (I don't have any contact details)

Our teams has a '96 BMW but it has been modified for endurance racing and now has a 3.2l engine, other aero package etc. We do have some spares.

garry · 14 Jun 2004, 20:53 (Ref:1004029)

HJC thanks for the info, I will try to contact them. Your car would be eligible for the invitation class if you are interested.
I have spoken to the organiser of the Pirelli Super Touring Car Championship and they will should have 4 cars joining us as they do not have enough cars to run on their own. This will take the grid above the 20 mark.

kmchow · 15 Jun 2004, 00:58 (Ref:1004205)

Quote:

Originally posted by garry
The 2.2 was used for the world cup races. There are other 2.2 engines around but we have a way now of checking if an engine is a 2.2.

Was every ST team allowed to run 2.2L for the World Cup? But wouldn't a 2.2L engine give some teams a power advantage over the 2L teams?

garry · 15 Jun 2004, 14:04 (Ref:1004801)

2.2L only gives torque advantage and not power. Ultimately this would be slightly quicker so if we found an engine to be a 2.2 we would either move it to the invitation class or increase the minimum weight of the car.

djinvicta · 15 Jun 2004, 18:01 (Ref:1005046)

Garry; whether Peter Thurston and the Prelude would qualify, I dont know. Let him or me know if it does. Thanks Dave.

garry · 16 Jun 2004, 08:52 (Ref:1005599)

Dave, no sorry it doesn,t. It has to be a Touring Car to comply.

djinvicta · 16 Jun 2004, 11:19 (Ref:1005719)

Ok; thought as much. Garry, out of interest, (nothing to do with this thread) the Escort should be up and racing at Brands 4th /5th August. Good news eh?

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