Round 6: The 105th running of the Indianapolis 500. May 18-30, 2021.

[Adam43]

Perhaps have a panel of judges to review the best photo from practice?

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Adam43

Perhaps have a panel of judges to review the best photo from practice?

As the cars come out of Turn 4.

[tux]

Wow, Will Power. Whats going on? Slowest so far, obviously they're going to make the race but Penske being slowest (90 mins in) is a really strange thing.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by tux

Wow, Will Power. Whats going on? Slowest so far, obviously they're going to make the race but Penske being slowest (90 mins in) is a really strange thing.

A four lap average of 229.052 mph.

[joeb]

Indy qualifying is so exciting, since you aren't guaranteed a spot in the race. Everyone has gone through once now, and Dixon is holding on to the top spot. It would be pretty amazing if anybody is going to improve on that this late in the day. I assume the bottom five people will keep going out to try and improve their times, but I'm not sure how many other people will.

[mstets]

All four Ganassi cars in the fast nine after the first runs completed. It looks like there will be a lot of cars make 2nd/multiple attempts. Rinus already made a 2nd run and put himself up to fifth.

[bjohnsonsmith]

The sun is out and track temperatures will be up from earlier today, so it will be interesting to see what drivers can do with the change in conditions.

[Adam43]

Yeah, not great conditions at the moment.

[mstets]

Wow. Palou destroys his car on his 2nd attempt.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Palou into the wall. He had already qualified for the Fast Nine tomorrow. Can they get the car fixed in time for tomorrow, as it took a big hit?

[mstets]

Ganassi team has already started building a car from a spare tub.

[broadrun96]

Ouch

https://twitter.com/IndyCar/status/1...956674564?s=20

[broadrun96]

Will Power second in Lane 1 with 21 min to go, Simona ahead of him

[broadrun96]

229.228 for Will so he's coming back tomorrow in The Last Row Shootout

And then the team almost pushed him in to the wall after his run.

Sato and Rossi are sitting in Lane 2 to get in the Fast 9.

Enerson and Kellett, and Simona it sounds, will likely end their attempt to move up to Fast 9 with 11 min to go

[broadrun96]

With 7 seconds to go Kellett bumped himself from 30 to the Last Row Shootout and Simona pulled out for the final run.

Edit

He kept 30, NBC had it wrong to start.

And Will acting like his usual idiot self that's it's not his problem someone else did it. He wasn't in the top 30 with his last 2 runs.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by broadrun96

With 7 seconds to go Kellett bumped himself from 30 to the Last Row Shootout and Simona pulled out for the final run.

Edit

He kept 30, NBC had it wrong to start.

And Will acting like his usual idiot self that's it's not his problem someone else did it. He wasn't in the top 30 with his last 2 runs.

I turned it off after Kellett did not improve his time, and I was under the impression as well that he had lost the position. So what went different?

[peebee2]

Originally Posted by joeb

I turned it off after Kellett did not improve his time, and I was under the impression as well that he had lost the position. So what went different?

You have to set a time in the top 30 when you do it, otherwise no speed is recorded, thus Power’s speed was struck.

Hence Kellett was still in. He ran specifically to block Power from being able to run again. Very smart strategy.

[broadrun96]

I think he lost his position and Power withdrew his so he moved back up again

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by peebee2

You have to set a time in the top 30, otherwise no speed is recorded.



Hence Kellett was still in. He ran specifically to block Power from being able to run again. Very smart strategy.

Kellett's time was out so that strategy was run too early. Power withdrew his time during Kellett's run when then entered Lane 1 in hopes they could get on track after Simona if Kellett got waived off like Enerson did by Indy officials. Kellett was just fast enough to not get waived off. If Power had not withdrawn Kellett would have been out and Power in.

[peebee2]

Originally Posted by broadrun96

Kellett's time was out so that strategy was run too early. Power withdrew his time during Kellett's run when then entered Lane 1 in hopes they could get on track after Simona if Kellett got waived off like Enerson did by Indy officials. Kellett was just fast enough to not get waived off. If Power had not withdrawn Kellett would have been out and Power in.

No. Power’s time was not counted as it wasn’t top 30 when he did it. As he never got out again it wasn’t withdrawn, as there was nothing to withdraw.

Kellet’s strategy was only to deny Power a final run with downforce taken off. Very good thinking from someone.

Simone was never likely to beat him. Power was the threat.

[broadrun96]

No, at the END of the day the Top 30 is kept and all others are erased. NBC doesn't know the actual regs and can't tell their ass from a hole in the ground, the truck does and kept the 31-35 times as Indy did. The I'm running 30 so when my time is withdrawn I can rub 180 is NOT in the current setup, it was the pre Last Row Shootout rule. All times are kept during Saturday and if you withdraw, as required to enter Lane 1, you lose your fast time. If 30 withdraws his time to enter Lane 1 31 can take that spot if 30's time is worse.

Indy hasn't helped by changing the rule at least once every year since IRL wanted to guarantee everyone in the field. Indy Star had up to date listings and running order.

But it shouldn't matter as the rule change to allow the Last Row to run almost non-stop for the entire time means Power can't possibly screw it up. He gets all the runs he needs not one and done like they've used until I think last year.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by peebee2

Kellet’s strategy was only to deny Power a final run with downforce taken off. Very good thinking from someone.

Simone was never likely to beat him. Power was the threat.

I also never heard what was going on with Power, or the rest of the Penske cars for that matter. The contingent was led by the rookie. I still have a sneaky suspicion that at least one Penske car will be challenging for the win next week.

[mstets]

Originally Posted by broadrun96

Kellett's time was out so that strategy was run too early. Power withdrew his time during Kellett's run when then entered Lane 1 in hopes they could get on track after Simona if Kellett got waived off like Enerson did by Indy officials. Kellett was just fast enough to not get waived off. If Power had not withdrawn Kellett would have been out and Power in.

Seems like a very unlikely strategy to work out for Power. It could only have worked if both Kellett and Simona had waved off. If either of them made a four lap run there was no way Power was getting on track, so why would they withdraw his 229 run? I can't imagine a wave off of either of the last two runs before they had each completed at least two laps, and that would have taken more time than Kellett's four lap run. Simona barely left the pits before the gun went off.


Where can we read the rule book?

[mstets]

Originally Posted by broadrun96

No, at the END of the day the Top 30 is kept and all others are erased. NBC doesn't know the actual regs and can't tell their ass from a hole in the ground, the truck does and kept the 31-35 times as Indy did. The I'm running 30 so when my time is withdrawn I can rub 180 is NOT in the current setup, it was the pre Last Row Shootout rule. All times are kept during Saturday and if you withdraw, as required to enter Lane 1, you lose your fast time. If 30 withdraws his time to enter Lane 1 31 can take that spot if 30's time is worse.

Indy hasn't helped by changing the rule at least once every year since IRL wanted to guarantee everyone in the field. Indy Star had up to date listings and running order.

But it shouldn't matter as the rule change to allow the Last Row to run almost non-stop for the entire time means Power can't possibly screw it up. He gets all the runs he needs not one and done like they've used until I think last year.

Pruett is backing up NBC's explanation of the rules.



https://racer.com/2021/05/22/underst...00-qualifying/

[peebee2]

Originally Posted by broadrun96

No, at the END of the day the Top 30 is kept and all others are erased. NBC doesn't know the actual regs and can't tell their ass from a hole in the ground, the truck does and kept the 31-35 times as Indy did. The I'm running 30 so when my time is withdrawn I can rub 180 is NOT in the current setup, it was the pre Last Row Shootout rule. All times are kept during Saturday and if you withdraw, as required to enter Lane 1, you lose your fast time. If 30 withdraws his time to enter Lane 1 31 can take that spot if 30's time is worse.

Indy hasn't helped by changing the rule at least once every year since IRL wanted to guarantee everyone in the field. Indy Star had up to date listings and running order.

But it shouldn't matter as the rule change to allow the Last Row to run almost non-stop for the entire time means Power can't possibly screw it up. He gets all the runs he needs not one and done like they've used until I think last year.

LOL, I’m not getting info off the TV. I’m getting it direct from teams at the track. It’s complicated but it’s exactly as I wrote above.