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I always find the Pitpass F1 supergrid interesting as an indicator of form.
Particularly between team mates. http://www.pitpass.com/src/seasons/2.../supergrid.php |
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I've always rated him, but tbh, I saw very little from him post Catalunya to shout about! The speed is there in qualy but he suffered appallingly in tyre management skills, I felt, even compared to Bruno who I would venture has much less overall experience?
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I think he's kind of a Riccardo Patrese's style, impressive fast, capable of winning races, accident prone and always challenging but never quite getting it done.
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Nigel Roebuck's top ten
1) Fernando Alonso 2) Lewis Hamilton 3) Sebastian Vettel 4) Kimi Raikkonen 5) Jenson Button 6) Nico Hulkenberg 7) Mark Webber 8) Nico Rosberg 9) Paul di Resta 10) Felipe Massa Autosport top ten 1) Fernando Alonso 2) Lewis Hamilton 3) Sebastian Vettel 4) Jenson Button 5) Kimi Raikkonen 6) Mark Webber 7) Nico Hulkenberg 8) Nico Rosberg 9) Daniel Ricciardo 10) Pastor Maldonado |
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I'm not going to devote time to forming a precise list, let alone detailing why I made my choices, but I'm going to argue that Lewis should be very high on anybody's list. He ran his arse off all season, only to be repeatedly robbed. When last I counted, he had DNFs from almost a third of the races, not to mention a list of ruined pit stops early into the season and the qualifying blunder at Catalunya. Sure, other top drivers had some unfair issues, but not like Lewis. His championship standings utterly fail to reflect his superb performance in 2012.
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Every list I have read has struggled to seperate the top three, which has always been Alonso/Vettel/Hamilton in various orders, always with Alonso number one.
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Personally I finally settled on Hamilton as number one, but the one thing few would argue is that those three were a cut above the rest. Perhaps some might throw Raikkonen in there.
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Not sure how anyone other than Vettel could be on the top of a list, personally, but that's the great thing about opinions. Won a title in a year when the FIA made rules interpretations specifically aimed at holding Red Bull back so the excitement of the early season wouldn't die too quickly...good stuff all around from that team.
The incredibly low expectations for Alonso (which I think were a knee-jerk reaction to the Ferrari not being quick immediately and, because it's Ferrari, the sky is always falling, so a slow start becomes the worst start to a season by any team ever) made him seem better than he was, which was still pretty damn good. He gets second on my list for winning races in diverse circumstances. As far as drivers go, I didn't pay regular attention to anyone other than Vettel and Alonso because I like to see the best and focus on guys in the title fight. Obviously, whoever was having a particularly good day would catch my interest that weekend, but I don't think I followed the other drivers enough to rate them. I personally enjoy the strategy more than anything; never been a huge fan of drivers in general, and don't have a favorite or anything like that. I'd put Hamilton third. Everything Vettel's accomplished, Hamilton coulda/shoulda/woulda. He hasn't yet, and most likely won't, but you can tell he still has it. Circumstances just can't be shaken by Hamilton with McLaren and I'd hate to see him become Villeneuve. We don't need anymore crashes in the NASCAR world! The rest? They were the rest. As others say, three really stood out. |
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Only thing I'd add, is that we are all giving Hamilton sympathy. Did anyone spare a thought for Raikkonen in '03-'05? Or Hakkinen in '00 and '01? Or Hakkinen's entire McLaren career frankly - the amount of blow ups and DNFs due to car problems while he was in good positions, or leading... I always go back to Nurburgring 1997 to sum up Mika. The quickest out there, but only when the car is actually working. Hamilton has had some bad luck, but what would make him truly great, is if he sucked it up, manned up, grew up a bit and showed some patience and respect for the team that made him who he is and have a go at another 2 titles. Here is my Aussie GP prediction: Hamilton Q P10, Race: P8. That is all he can hope for in my view.... So top three Hamilton, Vettel and Alonso, the three best in F1 today. Without a doubt. Jenson WDC 2013! |
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He's said some thing he may have preferred not to have said in the past, but I don't think this is a fair comment in 2012. People are quick to jump on the supposed truism of him joining Mercedes to enhance his "brand" (yuck), but neglect to consider the appeal in doing far less PR days and being able to concentrate on his racing, training and hell, even a tad more spare time after all that.
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To be fair to him, he's been there for six years. That's as long as Piquet was at Brabham, for example. McLaren has three times given him a car that could win the title, he won one and lost two - once where McLaren was largely to blame and once where McLaren was entirely to blame.
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However, with that solid first season back under his belt, all the supposed 'rustiness' will be gone come next season. As with a couple of other drivers on the grid, if he can nail his qualy every round, that would leave him with a lot less to do come later in the races and I suspect offer him several more chances of a race win.... |
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I have been following the top 10 countdown on crash.net and they have an interesting list currently waiting on the top 2.
1..... 2.... 3 Hamilton 4 Vettel 5 Button 6 Hulkenberg 7 Webber 8 Perez 9 Massa 10 Kobayashi Looks like Alonso 1 and Kimi 2 but I find one or two in the list a bit odd. I would not put Massa in the top ten. They will leave out at least 2 race winners ( Rosberg & Maldonado?) I would leave Maldonado as out well for his disipline problems but Rosberg did enough to make it in my opinion. |
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